{"id":5390,"date":"2009-03-24T00:05:41","date_gmt":"2009-03-24T05:05:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/24\/our-collective-faith-and-heresies-3\/"},"modified":"2009-03-24T00:05:41","modified_gmt":"2009-03-24T05:05:41","slug":"our-collective-faith-and-heresies-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/03\/24\/our-collective-faith-and-heresies-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Our Collective Faith and Heresies 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Heresies.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/imgs\/Heresies.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px;float: right\" height=\"238\" width=\"149\"><\/span>The most significant error among populist evangelical Christians, one heard in almost any adult SS class or Bible study, is docetism. Never put quite that way, belief by many is that Jesus\u2019 humanity is not quite what it seems. In fact, in unguarded moments, many will say something like \u201cJesus only <i>seemed<\/i> to be human.\u201d The next study in B. Quash and M. Ward, <em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1598560131?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1598560131\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Heresies and How to Avoid Them: Why It Matters What Christians Believe<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1598560131\" alt=\"\" style=\"border: medium none  ! important;margin: 0px ! important\" border=\"0\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"> <\/strong><\/em> is about Docetism, the view that Jesus only <i>seemed<\/i> to be human. (\u201cDocetism\u201d comes from the Greek word that means \u201cseemed\u201d or \u201cwas only deemed to be.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>One way of provoking this question is to ask if Jesus could have sinned when he was tempted. Another is to ask if Jesus made mistakes in mathematics as he learned his maths.<\/p>\n<p>John Sweet, who wrote this chp, contends that if it was hard for those in Judaism to embrace the deity of Christ, for many Greeks it was hard to embrace the humanity of Christ. Lurking behind all of this is Platonism, the radical distinction between appearance and reality, flesh and spirit, God and human.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br>\n\u201cFor God to be human, to be mixed up in matter \u2014 that was demeaning, disgusting, unthinkable to the Greek mind; and for God to suffer was a contradiction in terms\u201d (25). Therefore, Jesus was really a phantasm (because, being divine, he couldn\u2019t really be human). Or, therefore, Jesus really was human and only at his baptism did the divine Christ-Spirit enter into him and depart from him prior to his crucifixion (adoptionism). But these aren\u2019t the forms of docetism at work today.<\/p>\n<p>Sweet moves to a slightly different form of docetism: was Jesus fully human in his mind? The issue came to a head with Apollinarius of Laodicea. He believed, and thinking he was fully orthodox, that Jesus\u2019 mind was the divine Logos. \u201cHe was quite clear that Jesus did not have a human mind, did not learn and develop morally, could not have been humanly ignorant\u201d (27; in spite of Mark 13:32: \u201cabout that day, no one knows \u2026 not even the Son\u201d).<\/p>\n<p>Sweet finds an analogy to docetism in how many read the Bible, favoring only specific books etc: it\u2019s a scriptural docetism. Will it be John or will it be Mark or will it both? Further, he suggests we honor Jesus\u2019 parents \u2014 both Mary and Joseph. And to the Old Testament. <\/p>\n<p>Most importantly, Sweet suggests we begin elevating our understanding of \u201chumanity\u201d \u2014 Eikons of God is my expression. He suggests we begin to think of God and humans in verbs instead of nouns and to think in terms of relationships. (He says we need more Eastern thought in the West.)<\/p>\n<p>And have a \u201cnegative capability\u201d: a willingness to admit to mystery in this.<\/p>\n<p>The humanity of Jesus matters in how you see yourself (Jesus is our brother), how you see others (Jesus is everyone\u2019s brother), and how we see our relationship to God (as Son, we are connected to God through his relationship). <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The most significant error among populist evangelical Christians, one heard in almost any adult SS class or Bible study, is docetism. Never put quite that way, belief by many is that Jesus\u2019 humanity is not quite what it seems. 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