{"id":5632,"date":"2009-06-04T12:31:45","date_gmt":"2009-06-04T17:31:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2009\/06\/04\/a-brothers-wisdom-64\/"},"modified":"2009-06-04T12:31:45","modified_gmt":"2009-06-04T17:31:45","slug":"a-brothers-wisdom-64","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/06\/04\/a-brothers-wisdom-64\/","title":{"rendered":"A Brother&#8217;s Wisdom 64"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"PrayerFell.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/imgs\/PrayerFell.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px;float: right\" height=\"233\" width=\"248\"><\/span>I don\u2019t think prayer is mechanical. That is, I don\u2019t think if we \u201cdo\u201d things right \u2014 as the right way, use the right formulae, etc \u2014 that we will get what we want. But James makes a mechanical point about prayer that we need to think about. Notice these words from James 4:1-3:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don\u2019t they come from your desires that battle You<br>\nwithin you?want something but don\u2019t get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot<br>\nhave what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you<br>\ndo not ask God. <b>When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.<\/b><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Here\u2019s a \u201cmechanical\u201d point that we need to consider when it comes to prayer: <i>there is a profound interconnectivity between our relations with humans and our relation with God.<\/i><\/p>\n<blockquote><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><br>\nIf our motives are to possess or dominate others, we can\u2019t be connected<br>\nto God properly; if our desires and pleasures to have authority over<br>\nothers shape our prayers, we are not connected to God properly. I don\u2019t<br>\nknow that is as simple as \u201cget your motives right\u201d or \u201cget the right<br>\npleasures\u201d. Instead, I\u2019m wondering today if it is not more \u201cwhen you<br>\nare in proper relations with those in the messianic community then your<br>\nprayers will be heard because you are in tune with what God is doing in<br>\nthis world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It is far too easy for us to think about the Vertical and then to the Horizontal, as if being right with God makes us right with others. We might pursue this line of thinking today: the Horizontal shapes the Vertical as well.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I don\u2019t think prayer is mechanical. That is, I don\u2019t think if we \u201cdo\u201d things right \u2014 as the right way, use the right formulae, etc \u2014 that we will get what we want. But James makes a mechanical point about prayer that we need to think about. Notice these words from James 4:1-3: What [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":197,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1777],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5632","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-james"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>A Brother&#039;s Wisdom 64<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I don&#039;t think prayer is mechanical. 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