{"id":58060,"date":"2015-07-28T00:26:46","date_gmt":"2015-07-28T05:26:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/?p=58060"},"modified":"2015-07-25T12:30:50","modified_gmt":"2015-07-25T17:30:50","slug":"dropping-a-zero-or-two-or-three","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2015\/07\/28\/dropping-a-zero-or-two-or-three\/","title":{"rendered":"Dropping a Zero or Two or Three"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/multihatpastor.com\/2015\/07\/21\/what-if-we-drop-a-couple-of-zeros\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong>From Steve Cuss<\/strong><\/a>, a well-timed word, and my questions:<\/p>\n<p><strong>What has your church done to examine it\u2019s expenditures or what has it done to increase giving at the expense of local expenditures?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think our marketing budgets and production budgets have too many zeros on the end of them. \u00a0Here is what I mean:<\/p>\n<p>A couple of times per year I receive a large box in the mail from a national church leader conference. The box contains several posters to hang in the church, some personal invitation cards for their upcoming conference and a few goofy gifts. The gifts are of the whoopy cushion, yoyo, and popcorn variety. The whole thing arrives in some pretty high end packaging and of course, my kids enjoy unboxing it all. The experience of opening the package communicates excellence and frivolity, but every time I receive the package I get a sinking feeling in my stomach.<\/p>\n<p>In the last ten years I have attended a sum total of one conference from this organization. It was a fantastic conference, I learned a great deal and had a fun time. They made a strong appeal to give money for drinking water in Africa. They spoke with conviction about this generation and how we should promote justice around the world. I understand they do this every year. I love that \u2013 an organization using their platform to shine light and send resources to the neediest among us.<\/p>\n<p>But this is also my beef\u00a0because the medium negates the message.\u00a0In this specific case, the message to give money for fresh drinking water is incongruent with\u00a0the massive concert level production experience of the conference and the expensive marketing budget of the box that arrives in the mail. Could it be that our global effort has too much to do with us feeling good about our global effort, while wrapped in a powerful concert experience, than it does self sacrificing\u00a0for our global brothers and sisters?<\/p>\n<p>One box in the mail, twice per year multiplied by tens of thousands of alumni attendees. Each box representing significant dollars of marketing expense, from staffing to production to mailing cost.\u00a0<strong style=\"font-style: inherit;\">Why not drop some zeros from the end of the marketing budget?<\/strong>You could mail me a note in a simple brown envelope and send the rest of the marketing budget to provide fresh drinking water. In fact that move in itself would send a powerful message.\u201dInstead of sending you a gift you don\u2019t need, we\u2019ve sent the marketing budget to the neediest, most vulnerable people in the world.\u201d I would attend that conference each year simply based on principle.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t mean to pick on one conference company. I find this sort of incongruence all through the modern western church.\u00a0It was 1990something when I first heard the phrase, now deeply embedded in most of our churches, that \u201cexcellence honors God.\u201d And sure, we all needed to lift our game\u00a0<del style=\"font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit;\">a little<\/del>\u00a0a whole lot.<\/p>\n<p>But excellence is expensive. Crazy expensive. In our days of technological marvel, excellence is elusive. How excellent is too excellent? Where do you draw the line?<\/p>\n<p>As long as my brothers and sisters across the globe are living on less than $2 per day and dying of preventable diseases,\u00a0<strong style=\"font-style: inherit;\">I\u2019d rather us be less excellent in our marketing and more excellent in our solidarity. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That is why one family stopped coming to our church. After one service, they compared us to a church they used to attend in another state. The church invested 6 or 7 figures into their weekend experience, looking at their youtube videos. The person said, \u201cOne day you guys will be like that church.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>No we never will, I explained. Our \u201clow tech\u201d approach isn\u2019t all we can afford, it is a conscious decision to draw the line and free up resources on behalf of the massively under resourced among us. Our Sunday experience is void of programmable moving lights, but I\u2019ve noticed that\u00a0<a style=\"font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; color: #1b8be0;\" href=\"http:\/\/lightuphope.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">some friends of ours in Africa<\/a>\u00a0don\u2019t seem to mind.<\/p>\n<p><strong style=\"font-style: inherit;\">I think our marketing budgets and production budgets have too many zeros on the end of them.<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Instead of spending 5, 6 or 7 figures on these items, I challenge us to spend 3,4 or 5 figures. \u00a0We could all do to drop a couple of zeroes. \u00a0That money can make a life changing difference around the world and our people will appreciate the congruence between our production and our solidarity.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From Steve Cuss, a well-timed word, and my questions: What has your church done to examine it\u2019s expenditures or what has it done to increase giving at the expense of local expenditures? 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