{"id":6229,"date":"2009-11-06T11:17:18","date_gmt":"2009-11-06T16:17:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/06\/religion-or-revolution-3\/"},"modified":"2009-11-06T11:17:18","modified_gmt":"2009-11-06T16:17:18","slug":"religion-or-revolution-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/06\/religion-or-revolution-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Religion or Revolution? 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Boyd.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/imgs\/Boyd.jpg\" width=\"314\" height=\"206\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"float: left;margin: 0 20px 20px 0\"><\/span>Greg Boyd, in his newest book, <em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0310283833?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0310283833\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Myth of a Christian Religion: Losing Your Religion for the Beauty of a Revolution<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0310283833\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\"><br>\n<\/strong><\/em> is about \u201csword-power vs. cross-power\u201d (22).\u00a0<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>What makes Boyd singular is that he thinks cross-power must shape everything, and this lands him in the anabaptist camp. The difference is power <i>over<\/i>\u00a0vs. power <i>under<\/i>. \u00a0The latter is about humility and self-sacrifice. It may look weak but it is the power of God.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>How useful is his \u201cpower under\u201d and \u201cpower over\u201d theory? Do you think this is practical? Is it utopian? Why do we need this theory? How does it relate to \u201cservant leadership\u201d ideas?<\/b><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The temptation of sword-power starts with Jesus, and he refuses to go along with Satan (Matt 4:1-11). The Church did fine until Constantine where sword took over the cross. The movement that suffered under nationalism became nationalistic.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>The word \u201choly\u201d is important: it means singular and in contrast to the kingdoms of this world. When Christians align themselves with the State, cross-power becomes sword-power. Instead of the Giant Jesus wev\u2019e got the Giant Caesar.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>But Jesus grew up in such times and he chose cross-power and his cross-power was subversive of sword-power in that day and in our day. Our responsibility is to live as Jesus lived \u2014 not to run government, not to advise government, and not to play with government. At times, though, followers of Jesus will agree on protesting what the government is doing. But retaining distinction \u2014 the holiness \u2014 is critical for followers of Jesus. We are to fight evil and not other humans, and we fight with cross-power.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The follower of Jesus is to live the kingdom by cross-power and let that life be the changing instrument of power.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greg Boyd, in his newest book, The Myth of a Christian Religion: Losing Your Religion for the Beauty of a Revolution is about \u201csword-power vs. cross-power\u201d (22).\u00a0 What makes Boyd singular is that he thinks cross-power must shape everything, and this lands him in the anabaptist camp. 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