{"id":6247,"date":"2009-11-10T12:23:32","date_gmt":"2009-11-10T17:23:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/10\/acts-and-mission-58\/"},"modified":"2009-11-10T12:23:32","modified_gmt":"2009-11-10T17:23:32","slug":"acts-and-mission-58","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/10\/acts-and-mission-58\/","title":{"rendered":"Acts and Mission 58"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"JerusTem.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/imgs\/JerusTem.jpg\" width=\"471\" height=\"225\" class=\"mt-image-center\" style=\"text-align: center;margin: 0 auto 20px\"><\/span>Paul is at odds with Pharisaic believers over Gentiles: how are they saved? Do they need to embrace the whole Torah and get circumcised?<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote class=\"webkit-indent-blockquote\"><p><span class=\"Apple-style-span\"><span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:6<\/span>\u00a0Both the apostles and the elders met together to deliberate about this matter.\u00a0<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:7<\/span>\u00a0After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, \u201cBrothers, you know that some time ago God chose me to preach to the Gentiles so they would hear the message of the gospel and believe.\u00a0<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:8<\/span>\u00a0And God, who knows the heart, has testified to them by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us,\u00a0<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:9<\/span>\u00a0and he made no distinction between them and us, cleansing their hearts by faith.\u00a0<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:10<\/span>\u00a0So now why are you putting God to the test by placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear?\u00a0<span class=\"vref\" style=\"font-weight: bold\">15:11<\/span>\u00a0On the contrary, we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they are.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: medium\"><br><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<div><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: medium\">First report is from Peter, and it is very interesting and it is God-focused (see Gaventa,\u00a0<em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/068705821X?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=068705821X\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Acts of the Apostles (Abingdon New Testament Commentaries)<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=068705821X\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\"><br>\n<\/strong><\/em>).<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Peter\u2019s essential points:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1. Peter\u2019s experience of preaching the gospel \u2014 and he did this because of a dream vision from God \u2014 is that God has granted the Spirit to the Gentiles by faith, and not by way of circumcision. God makes no distinctions. Who are we to remake distinctions \u2014 this sounds like Galatians 2:15-21.<\/div>\n<div>2. His next line is so important: \u201c<span class=\"Apple-style-span\">So now why are you putting God to the test by placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear?\u201d That is: Peter is saying that we Jews could not be saved the Torah either. It was a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors could bear. He blames Jewish disobedience, not the limitation of the Torah.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: medium\">3. Question: Do you think Peter is saying that he, Peter, is no longer following Torah? Or is he saying that they are no longer trying to be saved by keeping the Torah?<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<div><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"'Times New Roman', helvetica, hirakakupro-w3, osaka, 'ms pgothic', sans-serif\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size: medium\">4. Peter says that he \u2014 a Jew \u2014 is saved by the same means as the Gentiles: \u201cthrough the grace of the Lord Jesus.\u201d<\/span><\/font><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paul is at odds with Pharisaic believers over Gentiles: how are they saved? Do they need to embrace the whole Torah and get circumcised? 15:6\u00a0Both the apostles and the elders met together to deliberate about this matter.\u00a015:7\u00a0After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, \u201cBrothers, you know that some time [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":197,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1780],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6247","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-acts-of-the-apostles"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Acts and Mission 58<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Paul is at odds with Pharisaic believers over Gentiles: how are they saved? 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