{"id":6288,"date":"2009-11-20T06:03:35","date_gmt":"2009-11-20T11:03:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/20\/8-little-foxes-that-spoil-the-churchs-vines-6\/"},"modified":"2009-11-20T06:03:35","modified_gmt":"2009-11-20T11:03:35","slug":"8-little-foxes-that-spoil-the-churchs-vines-6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2009\/11\/20\/8-little-foxes-that-spoil-the-churchs-vines-6\/","title":{"rendered":"8 Little Foxes that Spoil the Church&#8217;s Vines 6"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Fox.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/imgs\/Fox.jpg\" width=\"297\" height=\"315\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"float: right;margin: 0 0 20px 20px\"><\/span><b>I apologize that the comments were turned off on this post this morning \u2026 not sure how that happened, but it did.<\/b><\/p>\n<div><b><br><\/b>\n<div>On the plane yesterday the man sitting with us told us he was \u201craised Jewish\u201d but that he went to a college where he had to take some Christianity, so he\u2019s got some Christianity in him, and then he said it\u2019s all rolled up into an overriding <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Zen Buddhism<\/a>. There you have it: New Agers make up their own religion. <b>True or not?<\/b>\n<div>\n<div>In their new book, <em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0830838546?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0830838546\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hidden Worldviews: Eight Cultural Stories That Shape Our Lives<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0830838546\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" style=\"border:none !important;margin:0px !important\"><br>\n<\/strong><\/em>, Steve Wilkens and Mark Sanford examine cultural scripts that work against the gospel work in the Church.\u00a0\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Our theme today: new age. <\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Motto: \u201cAre we gods or God\u2019s?\u201d<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I\u2019ll be honest, this theme doesn\u2019t interest me. I don\u2019t find New Age stuff even interesting \u2026 but this chapter got \u00a0me interested. Basically it argues humans need to find their inner divinity, God-consciousness or Higher Self. Knowledge of the inner dimension is salvation \u2014 it has an undeniable gnostic strain. It is monistic \u2014 unity of material an<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>So what do we learn:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1. An emphasis on the spiritual dimension of life.<\/div>\n<div>2. Reveals some common problems with institutional religion.<\/div>\n<div>3. Questions Enlightenment\u2019s rationality as the gatekeeper.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>But they see fundamental problems in:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1. Flip flopping from materialism to spirit \u2014 a bit like transcendentalism.<\/div>\n<div>2. Self-salvation.<\/div>\n<div>3. It can\u2019t justify its larger social agenda.<\/div>\n<div>4. 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