{"id":6719,"date":"2010-02-26T05:43:01","date_gmt":"2010-02-26T10:43:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/2010\/02\/26\/the-creeds-at-the-jesus-creed-david-opderbeck\/"},"modified":"2010-02-26T05:43:01","modified_gmt":"2010-02-26T10:43:01","slug":"the-creeds-at-the-jesus-creed-david-opderbeck","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2010\/02\/26\/the-creeds-at-the-jesus-creed-david-opderbeck\/","title":{"rendered":"The Creeds at the Jesus Creed: David Opderbeck"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/assets_c\/2009\/01\/Lawbook-2978.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/jesuscreed\/assets_c\/2009\/01\/Lawbook-thumb-275x224-2978.jpg\" width=\"275\" height=\"224\" alt=\"Lawbook.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"float: right;margin: 0 0 20px 20px\"><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 0.75em;margin-left: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-right-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;padding-top: 0px;padding-right: 0px;padding-bottom: 0px;padding-left: 0px;font-size: 1em;font-weight: normal\">The Problem with Paleo-Orthodoxy<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 0.75em;margin-left: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-right-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;padding-top: 0px;padding-right: 0px;padding-bottom: 0px;padding-left: 0px;font-size: 1em;font-weight: normal\">I\u2019m taking a break from my usual \u201cLaw\u201d columns to write about something that\u2019s been bothering me a bit.<span>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>We have been talking here on Jesus Creed about the value and importance of the early Christian Creeds.<span>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>It\u2019s been suggested, for example in the recent book \u201cDeep Church\u201d by Jim Belcher,<span>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>that the ecumenical Creeds provide a basis for marking the boundaries of Christian theology.<span>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>This approach is often referred to as \u201cpaleo-orthodoxy.\u201d<span>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>The problem, in my view, is that it doesn\u2019t work. In fact, I think the paleo-orthodoxy approach is opposed in significant ways to the \u201cpost-conservative\u201d ethos that originally drew me to the emerging church conversation and that subsequently led me to participate in the Jesus Creed community.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 0px;margin-right: 0px;margin-bottom: 0.75em;margin-left: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-right-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px;border-style: initial;border-color: initial;padding-top: 0px;padding-right: 0px;padding-bottom: 0px;padding-left: 0px;font-size: 1em;font-weight: normal\"><b>Do the ecumenical Creeds establish firm boundaries for Christian theology?<span>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span>\u00a0<\/span><b>Is pale-orthodoxy consistent with or opposed to the emerging \/ post-conservative \/ \u201cthird way\u201d ethos?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br>\n<!--StartFragment--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">I should note clearly hear that I will<br>\nhappily recite the Apostle\u2019s and Nicene Creeds.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>I agree with paleo-orthodoxy that these Creeds reflect<br>\nimportant, basic truths about God and Christ.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>I also agree that these Creeds establish a pattern for the<br>\nChurch\u2019s proclamation of the Gospel.<span>\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>The Creeds emphasize the basic Biblical themes of<br>\ncreation, Trinity, incarnation, resurrection and redemption, and proclaim in<br>\nparticular the events of the birth, crucifixion and resurrection of<br>\nChrist.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>This is the Gospel that<br>\nthe Church has always proclaimed and always must proclaim, for the Gospel<br>\nfundamentally is rooted in God\u2019s Trinitarian person and in these kerygmatic<br>\nevents.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>The Gospel is the \u201cfaith<br>\nthat was once for all entrusted to the saints\u201d (Jude 1:3), which does not<br>\nchange.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">But paleo-orthodoxy, it seems to me, understands the Creeds<br>\nto have a greater authority than that of faithfully reflecting a pattern for<br>\nGospel proclamation.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><span>\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>For paleo-orthodoxy, the<br>\necumenical Creeds are <i>authoritative<\/i><br>\nfor doctrine and theology because they are part of the \u201chistory of the Holy<br>\nSpirit.\u201d<span>\u00a0 <\/span>To be sure, the Creeds<br>\nfor the paleo-orthodox are subsidiary authorities to scripture, but<br>\nnevertheless they are in some sense binding authorities.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>In principle, for the paleo-orthodox,<br>\nthe Creeds are reformable in accordance with scripture.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>In practice, however, the Creeds for<br>\nthem are functionally infallible (or so it seems to me, and to some other<br>\nobservers such as Roger Olson, who writes to this effect in his book Reformed<br>\nand Always Reforming).<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I find this notion troubling, for several reasons:<span>\u00a0 <\/span>(1) it functionally compromises the<br>\nReformational principles of <i>sola<br>\nscriptura<\/i> (though it formally maintains that principle) and of the<br>\npriesthood of all believers; (2) it is highly selective \u2013 indeed arbitrary \u2013<br>\nabout which parts of the \u201chistory of the Holy Spirit\u201d are authoritative; and<br>\n(3) it leaves unmanageable ambiguities about the status of some creedal<br>\nstatements.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">As to point (1), paleo-orthodoxy places tremendous emphasis<br>\non the consensus of the councils that produced some of the ecumenical creeds,<br>\nparticularly the Nicene Creed.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>As<br>\na historical and doctrinal matter, I think the Council of Nicea reached the<br>\ncorrect result in condemning Arianism.<span>\u00a0<br>\n<\/span>I believe the Holy Spirit was indeed at work in that process.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>However, I don\u2019t want to imagine the<br>\nCouncil\u2019s vote as somehow bearing God\u2019s own <i>final<br>\nauthority<\/i>.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>There is a<br>\nsignificant difference between discerning that God was active in guiding a set<br>\nof contingent circumstances and taking that contingent guidance to represent a<br>\nbinding judgment for all places and times.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><i>Sola scriptura<\/i><br>\nargues that scripture alone enjoys ultimately binding status.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>The priesthood of all believers<br>\nsuggests that each Christian is both free and responsible to respond to God\u2019s<br>\nrevelation in scripture, without intermediation by any conciliar authority.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">As to point (2), no one has ever been able to explain to me<br>\nwhy the Canons of the Council of Nicea can be rejected and ignored if the<br>\nNicene Creed is a binding authority.<span>\u00a0<br>\n<\/span>The Council understood the Canons to be just as binding as the<br>\nCreed.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>In fact, the Roman Church<br>\neventually developed an elaborate system of Canon Law based on the historical<br>\nseries of Creeds, Canons, and other rulings of which the Nicene Creed is but<br>\none part.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Many of the Canons<br>\nrelate to questions of Church authority and governance that fundamentally are<br>\nrejected by all Protestants.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>The<br>\nCanons reflect and encode the universal belief of the Council that there was<br>\none holy, apostolic, <i>visible<\/i><br>\nChurch.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>I cannot discern from<br>\npaleo-orthodoxy any rational, Biblical or theological principle by which the<br>\nCreed can be surgically extracted from its historical context of Canons and<br>\nChurch.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Finally, as to point (3), a prime example is what is sometimes<br>\ncalled the third ecumenical creed, the Athanasian Creed.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Jim Belcher lists the Athanasian Creed<br>\nalong with the Apostle\u2019s and Nicene Creeds as one of the basic statements of<br>\nthe historic Christian faith.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>It<br>\nwas listed in the Lutheran Book of Concord in 1580, and is still recited in the<br>\nLutheran Church on Trinity Sunday.<span>\u00a0<br>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">But some parts of the Athanasian Creed should<br>\ngive most Protestants, and indeed all contemporary Christians, pause.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>I\u2019m referring here not to the<br>\nAthanasian Creed\u2019s Trinitarian and Christological statements, which essentially<br>\namplify the earlier Chalcedonian definition, but to its statements about<br>\nsoteriology and its so-called \u201cdamnatory clauses.\u201d<span>\u00a0 <\/span>In relevant part, it states:<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">\u201cAnd<br>\nthey that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have<br>\ndone evil, into everlasting fire. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">This<br>\nis the catholic faith; which except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he<br>\ncannot be saved.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">These statements seem to contradict some<br>\nbasic Reformational principles about justification by faith, including Article<br>\nIV of the Augsburg Confession, which also is part of the Book of Concord:<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">\u201cmen<br>\ncannot be justified before God by their own strength, merits, or works, but are<br>\nfreely justified for <a name=\"article4.2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a>Christ\u2019s sake, through faith, when<br>\nthey believe that they are received into favor, and that their sins are<br>\nforgiven for Christ\u2019s sake, who, by His death, has made satisfaction for our<br>\nsins. <a name=\"article4.3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a>This faith God imputes for righteousness in His<br>\nsight.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">How can it be that, according to the<br>\nAthanasian Creed, those who have \u201cdone good\u201d merit everlasting life, while<br>\naccording to Reformed theology as expressed in the same Book of Concord, no one<br>\n\u201cdoes good\u201d and those who are saved only gain that benefit through God\u2019s<br>\ngrace?<span>\u00a0 <\/span>The usual answer is that<br>\nthe Athanasian Creed is referring to good works as the <i>fruits <\/i>of faith, in other words to the process of<br>\nsanctification.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>That explanation seems<br>\nto represent an eisegetical move, however:<span>\u00a0 <\/span>it is a uniquely fifteenth-century Reformed gloss on<span>\u00a0 <\/span>the sixth-century soteriology reflected<br>\nin the creedal statement.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">And what of the apparent requirement in the<br>\nAthanasian Creed that only those who consciously confess a properly Trinitarian<br>\nand Christocentric faith are saved?<span>\u00a0<br>\n<\/span>For example, what about the problem of people who die in infancy, or the<br>\nmentally disabled, or those who have never heard the gospel?<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">Reformed theology early on developed a<br>\nresponse to at least some such problems through the mystery of election.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>For example, the Westminster Confession<br>\nstates that <i>\u201c[e]lect infants, dying in<br>\ninfancy, are regenerated and saved by Christ through the Spirit, who worketh<br>\nwhen, and where, and how he pleaseth. So also are all other elect persons who<br>\nare incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word.\u201d<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/i>In part because of concerns about<br>\nthese damnatory clauses, the Anglican Church in the 19<sup>th<\/sup> Century<br>\nremoved the reference to the Athanasian Creed from its Thirty-Nine<br>\nArticles.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Notables such as John<br>\nWesley and C.S. Lewis have also balked at these clauses and interpreted them to<br>\napply only to willful unbelief.<span>\u00a0<br>\n<\/span>Even contemporary Roman Catholic theology, after Vatican II, allows for<br>\nthe possibility of the salvation of unbaptized infants and the unevangelized.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Partly in that spirit, the Athanasian<br>\nCreed is rarely recited today in Catholic worship.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">Is the point of this discussion to bash the<br>\nAthanasian Creed?<span>\u00a0 <\/span>No.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>It is a beautiful Trinitarian and<br>\nChristological statement.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>The<br>\npoint is that even a document considered an \u201cecumenical Creed\u201d has been subject<br>\nto repeated reinterpretation by the Church as other aspects of theology<br>\ndeveloped.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>It\u2019s fair to say, I<br>\nthink, that <i>none<\/i> of the churches that<br>\ntoday include the Athanasian Creed as part of their official documents take all<br>\nof that Creed\u2019s soteriological statements at face value.<span>\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">This suggests to me that the Creeds simply<br>\ncannot bear the weight paleo-orthodoxy seems to want to place upon them.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>They do not in themselves provide a<br>\nsure foundation for theology and doctrine because they stand in conversational<br>\nrelationship with scripture and with the ongoing historical construction of<br>\ndoctrine.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>They are invaluable<br>\nconversation partners for us today as we seek to participate in the Holy<br>\nSpirit\u2019s ongoing work.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>We cannot<br>\nignore them, and we should not expect the shape of our theology to vary<br>\nsignificantly from the patterns they have set for the Tradition.<span>\u00a0 <\/span>At the same time, theology is an<br>\nongoing constructive project, <i>semper<br>\nreformanda<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span style=\"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri\">Is<br>\nthis a fair discussion of the problems with paleo-orthodoxy?<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Can a paleo-orthodox sensibility<br>\ncoexist with a post-conservative impulse?<span>\u00a0<br>\n<\/span>Can a post-conservative ( or post-liberal) impulse effectively pass<br>\nalong \u201cfaith that was once for all entrusted to the saints?\u201d<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Problem with Paleo-Orthodoxy I\u2019m taking a break from my usual \u201cLaw\u201d columns to write about something that\u2019s been bothering me a bit.\u00a0\u00a0We have been talking here on Jesus Creed about the value and importance of the early Christian Creeds.\u00a0\u00a0It\u2019s been suggested, for example in the recent book \u201cDeep Church\u201d by Jim Belcher,\u00a0\u00a0that the ecumenical [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":197,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6719","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Creeds at the Jesus Creed: David Opderbeck<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The Problem with Paleo-OrthodoxyI&#039;m taking a break from my usual &quot;Law&quot; 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