{"id":8663,"date":"2010-09-28T00:05:08","date_gmt":"2010-09-28T05:05:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/jesuscreed\/?p=8663"},"modified":"2010-09-28T05:43:23","modified_gmt":"2010-09-28T10:43:23","slug":"dallas-willard-on-nietzsche","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2010\/09\/28\/dallas-willard-on-nietzsche\/","title":{"rendered":"Dallas Willard on Nietzsche"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Dallas Willard gets it when he makes this claim:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If you say \u2018truth\u2019 in most places on the campuses I\u2019m familiar with, people will immediately say \u201cWhose truth?\u201d.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/40\/2010\/09\/Nietzsche.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-8669\" title=\"Nietzsche\" src=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/40\/2010\/09\/Nietzsche.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"290\" height=\"248\"><\/a>Behind that who\u2019s-in-power question lurks the one philosopher who pressed the connection of truth-claim to power-assertion, Friedrich Nietzsche. Many today would say his legacy is the most important one in contemporary postmodernity. \u201cNietzsche won the first round and truth is lost\u201d (162).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why is Nietzsche so appealing today? Where on TV \u2014 news, shows, movies \u2014 do we see Nietzsche\u2019s influence clearly? \u00a0Is the \u201cwill to power\u201d interpretation cynical? When you find yourself thinking \u201cthis is all about power\u201d what do you do? How can we counter the \u201cwill to power\u201d approach to life with \u201ccharity\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Example from my own life: I was once in a very brief conversation with a person with considerable power about evangelicalism, and this was during the Bush years. He said this: \u201cEvangelicalism is nothing but ideology.\u201d I asked if we could meet to discuss this, and he said no. He didn\u2019t want to talk about it. It was a done deal and there was nothing more to say.<\/p>\n<p>Unpacked, it looks like this: evangelicalism, in Nietzschean categories, is a group intent on the will to power and it uses evangelical thinking to press truth (power) claims in order to control the land.<\/p>\n<p>Well, this is where we are today: that was his interpretation, his collection of words and sentences, of how to put together what evangelicalism is. I could of course say right back that such an interpretation was his will to power, and we\u2019d not get very far, but this all brings us back to Willard\u2019s sketch of Nietzsche in\u00a0\u00a0<strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0830838457?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=jescre-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0830838457\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">A Place for Truth: Leading Thinkers Explore Life\u2019s Hardest Questions<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important;margin: 0px !important\" src=\"https:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=jescre-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0830838457\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/em><\/strong>.<!--more-->I want to sketch Willard\u2019s sketch.<\/p>\n<p>1. Nietzsche caught a wave, the wave of a culture that claimed belief in God but wherein God made no, or next to no, difference. So he said God was dead. God had become irrelevant.<\/p>\n<p>2. Nietzsche was repulsed by the system and both opted out and scorched it in print.<\/p>\n<p>3. Knowledge is not truth; knowledge is constructed in the human mind. Those constructions are used to assert power and they also oppress others. It\u2019s about will, it\u2019s about power, and it\u2019s not about truth.<\/p>\n<p>4. Christianity taught \u201cslave morality\u201d because it taught against the will to power in the teaching of love and service. Actually, he turns this inside out (deconstruction): the service idea is a way to find power against the oppressors.<\/p>\n<p>5. All we can really know are the appearances, a kind of phenomenology and perspectivalism.<\/p>\n<p>6. This all leads to the glorification of the individual desire and drive and will to power.<\/p>\n<p>7. Modernity is the attempt to disengage from the tradition, from the past, and from (what may be called) a wisdom tradition.<\/p>\n<p>Jesus\u2019 Voice is the opposite: he says he is the way, the truth and the life. He says to follow him, and if you do will find the joy of life.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dallas Willard gets it when he makes this claim:<\/p>\n<p>If you say &#8216;truth&#8217; in most places on the campuses I&#8217;m familiar with, people will immediately say &#8220;Whose truth?&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Behind that who&#8217;s-in-power question lurks the one philosopher who pressed the connection of truth-claim to power-assertion, Friedrich Nietzsche. Many today would say his legacy is the most important one in contemporary postmodernity. &#8220;Nietzsche won the first round and truth is lost&#8221; (162).<\/p>\n<p>Example from my own life: <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":197,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[47],"tags":[2142,1009,9],"class_list":["post-8663","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-apologetics","tag-dallas-willard","tag-nietzsche","tag-truth"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Dallas Willard on Nietzsche<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Dallas Willard gets it when he makes this claim:  If you say &#039;truth&#039; in most places on the campuses I&#039;m familiar with, people will immediately say &quot;Whose truth?&quot;.  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