{"id":87477,"date":"2019-09-18T00:08:39","date_gmt":"2019-09-18T05:08:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/?p=87477"},"modified":"2019-09-15T09:11:44","modified_gmt":"2019-09-15T14:11:44","slug":"christian-hierarchies-yes-or-no","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/jesuscreed\/2019\/09\/18\/christian-hierarchies-yes-or-no\/","title":{"rendered":"Christian Hierarchies: Yes or No?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/40\/2019\/09\/Screen-Shot-2019-08-31-at-12.16.39-PM.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-87075\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/40\/2019\/09\/Screen-Shot-2019-08-31-at-12.16.39-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"339\" height=\"508\"><\/a>Andrew Bartlett, in his new book\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2PvrOiQ\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong>Men and Women in Christ<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0<\/em>(MWiC), asks if Paul affirms or denies hierarchies in Christian marriage?<\/p>\n<p>Good question. He explores these questions with finesse and nuance and even-handedness.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Being willing to take the lowest place for the good of others is at the heart of Christian love and living. Jesus taught this and also lived it, both in his ministry and supremely at the cross (Mark 10:42-45;John 13:1-17; 15:12-17; Phil. 2:5-\u2029-8). Because Paul\u2019s view of the world is Christ-centred, this theme is often picked up in his teaching:<\/p>\n<p>\u2018loving,\u2026 preferring one another in honour\u2019 (Rom. 12:10)\u2026<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This has significant implications.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The fellowship of God\u2019s church is therefore built not on hierarchies but on humble love.<\/p>\n<p>However, this does not mean that Paul is opposed to all hierarchy. He endorses the existence and exercise of authority where appropriate. For example, believers should submit to civil government, because it is God\u2019s provision for the active restraint of evil (Rom. 13:1-7). And he endorses the appropriate exercise of authority by parents over children. We know this because one of the qualifications for eldership is that elders should have their children under proper control (i Tim. 3:4-5 \u2013 \u2018having children in subjection\u2019). <em><strong>Paul is innocent of today\u2019s Western cultural distaste for hierarchies.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Grudem says that Paul\u2019s use of <em>hupotasso<\/em> implies a hierarchy of husband over wife. He claims that <em>hupotasso<\/em>\u00a0is always used of submission to an authority. \u2026 <strong>Grudem\u2019s reasoning skips over an essential interpretive decision which has to be made when we read the texts concerning wives\u2019 submission<\/strong>. Does Paul mean that wives should submit because their husbands <em>are<\/em> in authority over them? Or does Paul mean that wives should behave <em>as if<\/em> their husbands ranked above them, even though in Christ husbands and wives are not in a hierarchy but are on an equal footing as brothers and sisters? On the first view submission is appropriate because the wife should recognize the husband\u2019s authoritative position. On the second view submission is appropriate simply as an expression of Christian humility. On either view the idea of ranking is central to Paul\u2019s meaning. The question is whether it is an objective ranking, reflecting the existence of an actual hierarchy, or whether it is a subjective ranking, reflecting a deliberate choice to behave with humility towards another person. This makes a real difference to Paul\u2019s readers, since the first view affirms a husband\u2019s unilateral authority and the second does not.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Conclusions:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>Paul is not opposed to hierarchies where they are appropriate.<\/li>\n<li>The word \u2018submit\u2019 (<em>hupotasso<\/em>) carries the idea of being ranked below someone else. But Paul\u2019s instruction to wives to submit does not of itself imply the existence of a hierarchy in marriage. We have to decide whether he means that wives should submit because their husbands <em>are<\/em> in authority over them or whether he means that wives should behave <em>as if<\/em> their husbands ranked above them.<\/li>\n<li>Submission in Christian relationships does not mean giving unquestioning obedience to another person. There is no Christian duty to follow another person into wrongdoing.<\/li>\n<li>There was not a uniform view of marriage in first-century culture, but typically the husband had unilateral authority over the wife.<\/li>\n<li>Paul\u2019s instructions to wives to submit, and to husbands to love, are partly driven by practical considerations.<\/li>\n<li>Paul endorses the authority of parents over children but not of slave owners over slaves. Comparing the three household relationships (wife to husband, child to father, slave to master) <strong><em>does not establish that Paul approves of husbands having unilateral authority over their wives<\/em><\/strong>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Andrew Bartlett, in his new book\u00a0Men and Women in Christ\u00a0(MWiC), asks if Paul affirms or denies hierarchies in Christian marriage? Good question. He explores these questions with finesse and nuance and even-handedness. 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