{"id":336,"date":"2010-11-13T22:56:00","date_gmt":"2010-11-13T22:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2010\/11\/a-pagan-view-on-exorcism\/"},"modified":"2010-11-13T22:56:00","modified_gmt":"2010-11-13T22:56:00","slug":"a-pagan-view-on-exorcism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2010\/11\/a-pagan-view-on-exorcism.html","title":{"rendered":"A Pagan View on Exorcism"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>This weekend, a group of American Catholic leaders are meeting in Baltimore to discuss how \u201cto prepare more priests and bishops to respond to the demand\u201d for more exorcisms.  The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/11\/13\/us\/13exorcism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">article in the <i>New York Times<\/i><\/a> makes it clear that the Catholic church is responding to a demand from the laity, and that they carefully screen people to separate those needing psychological care from those who are truly possessed.  I have many issues with the theology and practices of the Roman Catholic Church, but I\u2019m inclined to take them at their word here.<\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>Jason Pitzl-Waters at <a href=\"http:\/\/wildhunt.org\/blog\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Wild Hunt<\/a> has <a href=\"http:\/\/wildhunt.org\/blog\/2010\/11\/the-mainstreaming-of-exorcisms.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">this piece on the conference and what it means for Pagans<\/a>.  He expresses some concern that an increase in talk about Satan may lead to yet more confusion of Paganism with Satanism and trouble for all of us.  That\u2019s not an unreasonable concern.<\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>What I find most interesting are the comments from Pagans, many of whom take a very skeptical, materialist view of the matter.  It seems odd that people who regularly call to the Spirits of the Elements and Directions, who pour offerings to Nature Spirits, who worship every god and goddess known to humanity suddenly turn into Humanists when the subject of Christian entities is brought up.  <\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>I understand much of what has been called \u201cdemon possession\u201d is mental illness and should be treated as such.  Yet there are cases in many cultures and traditions that are better explained by malevolent entities than by mental illness.  There are instances where exorcisms do work (and plenty where they don\u2019t, but that doesn\u2019t mean they\u2019re all bogus).  <\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>If there are spirits in the world (nature spirits, spirits of the dead, gods and demigods), it is na\u00efve to assume they are all advanced beings who wish us well.  Some humans are pretty nasty people \u2013 if their spirits hang around our world, it\u2019s reasonable to assume that at least some of them would enjoy harassing the living.  The tales of our ancestors speak of gods and goddesses who harm humans (the Greek Furies come to mind).  And what of the thought-forms we create (intentionally or not) when we are angry, jealous, or spiteful?  <\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>I have not experienced possession first-hand, either as a victim or as an exorcist.  But I have done house cleansings, for myself and for others.  In one there was a dark energy (I won\u2019t call it an entity, but it might have been) so strong even I could locate it.  Another felt \u201cdirty,\u201d as though the residue of stress and arguments had built up over the years and needed to be cleaned out.  The cleansings all helped \u2013 the atmosphere of the houses became brighter, cheerier, and less fearful.  <\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>I once discussed exorcisms with a minister in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rsintl.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Church of Religious Science<\/a>.  She had done a few exorcisms, which she described as intensive versions of the \u201cprayer treatments\u201d practiced in Religious Science.  But the one she talked about most was the exorcism she couldn\u2019t do.  A young woman who was a recent immigrant from Mexico came to see her about a spirit that was troubling her.  A Catholic priest had tried and failed to get rid of the spirit.  The Religious Science minister couldn\u2019t either.  But she put the woman in touch with a traditional healer in Los Angeles (the minister called the healer a <i>brujah<\/i> \u2013 I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s a correct use of the term or not) who successfully performed the exorcism.<\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>When I told this story to a friend who had just completed a degree in anthropology, she said \u201cthe trick was to find a shaman from the right tribe.\u201d  It makes sense that different cultures would respond to different exorcism techniques, but I didn\u2019t think to ask whether it mattered to the malevolent spirit or to the victim.  Or to both.<\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>I think we are wise to be skeptical when someone claims \u201cthe devil made me do it.\u201d  Mental illness is far too common in our world, and we need to be quick to recognize it and treat it with appropriate therapies and when absolutely necessary, with medication.  But there are times when a person or a place is suffering from what is best understood as malevolent entities and energies.  I wish the Catholics good luck in helping their tribe deal with this problem.  We Pagans need to be ready to help our tribes as well.<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This weekend, a group of American Catholic leaders are meeting in Baltimore to discuss how \u201cto prepare more priests and bishops to respond to the demand\u201d for more exorcisms. 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