{"id":371,"date":"2010-08-24T19:56:00","date_gmt":"2010-08-24T19:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2010\/08\/lessons-from-a-fundamentalist\/"},"modified":"2010-08-24T19:56:00","modified_gmt":"2010-08-24T19:56:00","slug":"lessons-from-a-fundamentalist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2010\/08\/lessons-from-a-fundamentalist.html","title":{"rendered":"Lessons From a Fundamentalist"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'>I like reading <a href=\"http:\/\/www.albertmohler.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Al Mohler\u2019s blog<\/a>, though I rarely agree with his opinions. Mohler is President of Southern Theological Seminary and one of the leading intellectuals in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sbc.net\/bfm\/default.asp\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">fundamentalist Southern Baptist Convention<\/a>. His writings are straightforward and well-reasoned, and he rarely engages in the name-calling and other identity-based emotional bluster we see from so many fundamentalists. He is clearly a very intelligent, very well-educated person.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'>So how can someone so smart be a fundamentalist? The answer can be found in Mohler\u2019s writings, and the implications are huge \u2013 both for our public debates and for our personal quests for meaning and truth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biologos.org\/resources\/albert-mohler-why-does-the-universe-look-so-old\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Here\u2019s a link to a transcript of a speech<\/a> Mohler gave at a ministry convention earlier this year. The question he was asked is \u201cwhy does the Universe look so old?\u201d In other words, if the Earth is only 6000 years old (as most fundamentalists believe) why does the physical evidence indicate that the Earth is really 4.5 billion years old and the Universe is 13.5 billion years old?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'>In a transcript that runs 13 pages, Mohler devotes less than a page to directly answering this question, an answer that amounts to \u201conly God knows.\u201d He acknowledges the evidence for the age of the Universe and against the inerrancy of the Bible \u2013 and then dismisses it not with evidence but with this argument:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Verdana, sans-serif\">\u201cOur only means of intellectual rescue, brothers and sisters, is the speaking God, who speaks to us in scripture, in special revelation. And it is the scripture, the inerrant and infallible word of God that trumps renderings of general revelation [<span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'>the physical evidence we see in Nature<\/span>], and it must be so. Otherwise we will face destruction of the entire gospel in intellectual terms.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'>Christian fundamentalist doctrine \u2013 which Mohler lists as creation, fall, redemption, and new creation (all literal) \u2013 is totally dependent on a literal and inerrant reading of the Bible. In <em><a href=\"http:\/\/johnfranc.blogspot.com\/2009\/12\/case-for-god.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Case For God<\/a><\/em> Karen Armstrong says that fundamentalist religions are initially defensive movements rooted in a profound fear of annihilation. Mohler fears annihilation of his doctrine, so he has adopted the only worldview that will sustain it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'>I doubt if any readers of this blog need me to rebut Mohler\u2019s doctrine. Instead, I want to discuss the implications of his writings for us as religious liberals and as Pagans.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'><strong>Fundamentalists aren\u2019t stupid<\/strong>. Or at least they aren\u2019t stupid in any greater proportion than any other group, and we are arrogant and condescending if we assume they are. Liberals (political as well as religious) often make the error of assuming that if we could just get everyone to understand what we understand then they\u2019d agree with us. They won\u2019t, because they have different foundational assumptions about what is Good and what is True \u2013 not because they\u2019re too dumb or blind or stubborn to see things our way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'><strong>Debates with fundamentalists are useless<\/strong>. They see the Bible as the primary authority and we see the physical evidence as the primary authority. Talking with each other is a good thing \u2013 it helps to humanize \u201cthe other\u201d and can lead to greater respect and lesser tensions. But don\u2019t expect to convince anyone of anything.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'><strong>Be aware of your own worldview<\/strong>. What is Good and what is True and why is it so? What are your unstated foundational assumptions about Life and the Universe? Are you really living in accordance with your highest values, or are you mindlessly following the mainstream culture?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'><strong>Be humble about your religious experiences, for they are your own special revelation<\/strong>. Heathens speak of \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Unverified_personal_gnosis\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">unverified personal gnosis<\/a>\u201d and make it clear that it applies only to the person who received it. If it is helpful, if it is consistent with established beliefs and culture, and if others begin to receive the same message, the group may eventually accept it as received wisdom. But no one should expect others to automatically accept their revelations as Truth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'><strong>Evidence is debatable, facts are not<\/strong> \u2013 even if they mean you have to change your worldview. Those of us who live in the glass house of magic and witchcraft should be careful where we throw stones. Magic can tilt the odds \u2013 it can do the improbable. But it can\u2019t change the laws of nature. When facts become apparent, we discount them at the cost of our integrity. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'>I see no hatred in the writings of Al Mohler, but I see plenty of fear: the quite literal fear of losing his religion, the fear of losing his way of life, and ultimately, the fear of losing his soul to hell and damnation should he stray the slightest from his belief in the inerrancy of the Bible. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'>No amount of evidence, reason or logic, no experiences of transcendence or unity will convince the Al Mohlers of the world to abandon fundamentalism. But many follow them not because they share Mohler\u2019s certainty, but because they were taught this religion and never thought to question its foundational assumptions. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia, \"Times New Roman\", serif'>Those people are why we \u2013 UUs, Pagans, and religious liberals of all flavors \u2013 must never stop preaching universalism.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I like reading Al Mohler\u2019s blog, though I rarely agree with his opinions. Mohler is President of Southern Theological Seminary and one of the leading intellectuals in the fundamentalist Southern Baptist Convention. 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