{"id":7689,"date":"2018-02-06T04:00:44","date_gmt":"2018-02-06T10:00:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/?p=7689"},"modified":"2018-02-03T20:28:26","modified_gmt":"2018-02-04T02:28:26","slug":"facts-reason-good-experience-necessary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2018\/02\/facts-reason-good-experience-necessary.html","title":{"rendered":"Facts and Reason are Good, but Experience is Necessary"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>If there\u2019s one primary theme running through almost 10 years of blogging at Under the Ancient Oaks, it\u2019s this: religion is best approached through facts and reason, but reason alone will never build a deep and meaningful religion.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/243\/2018\/02\/Barclodiad-Y-Gawres-2014.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-7701 size-full\" title=\"Barclodiad Y Gawres, Anglesey, Wales - 2014\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/243\/2018\/02\/Barclodiad-Y-Gawres-2014.jpg\" alt=\"Barclodiad Y Gawres, Anglesey, Wales - 2014\" width=\"768\" height=\"404\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1>Facts and reason: the antidote to oppressive religion<\/h1>\n<p>I\u2019ve told this story many times, but it\u2019s worth telling again. I grew up in a small fundamentalist Baptist church, where I was taught the bible was the literal and inerrant Word of God, and that the few \u201csaved\u201d were going to heaven and the many \u201clost\u201d were going to hell. As a small child I believed what the authority figures told me. My parents believed them, so they must be right\u2026 or so I assumed.<\/p>\n<p>By about age nine I knew something wasn\u2019t right. How could a God of Love send billions of people into eternal torment for following the wrong religion? I didn\u2019t have the breadth of knowledge to understand just how and why it wasn\u2019t right.<\/p>\n<p>But I knew what I was taught about creation, the age of the earth, and the flood didn\u2019t match with what I learned through science. Even at an early age I realized that science doesn\u2019t have all the answers, but what science does know, it can prove (or very nearly so) with a high degree of confidence.<\/p>\n<p>When someone claims inerrancy, all you have to do is find one error and the whole house of cards collapses. Facts and reason showed me the fundamentalists were wrong\u2026 and taught me the foolishness of seeking certainty in matters where certainty is impossible.<\/p>\n<p>Since becoming a Pagan, facts and reason have shown that the true history of Wicca and witchcraft are far more interesting than the errors promoted by Margaret Murray. Modern Druidry\u2019s connections to the ancient Druids are tenuous at best, but our movement has been around for a good <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2017\/11\/300-years-druidry.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">300 years<\/a>. And <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2016\/03\/star-ships-a-book-review.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Western magic is far older<\/a> than anyone imagined.<\/p>\n<p>If people choose to believe things that cannot be proven (I certainly do), that\u2019s their business. If they tell you that you must believe them too, ask them how they know. If their answer doesn\u2019t satisfy you, walk away, and keep looking for one that does.<\/p>\n<h1>The primacy of religious experience<\/h1>\n<p>For all my love of science and reason, and for all my dislike of fundamentalism, I never considered becoming an atheist. There\u2019s always been something inside me whispering \u201cthere\u2019s <em>more<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s something about the mountains and trees, the wind and rain, and a flickering fire. There\u2019s something about standing under the night sky, looking up at the same stars and moon my ancient ancestors saw, realizing the universe is so vast and I\u2019m so small, and yet here I am, a part of it all.<\/p>\n<p>And then there was the night when someone said \u201cwe should draw down the Moon\u201d and what came through was not the Moon or the Mother Goddess, but a certain <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2014\/06\/cernunnos.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Forest God<\/a> who introduced Himself after years of watching me from a distance safe enough for my limited beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>And my world has never been the same.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/243\/2018\/02\/Cernunnos-01.11.17.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7695\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/243\/2018\/02\/Cernunnos-01.11.17.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"404\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t know what it all meant. I\u2019m still not exactly sure. But I am sure of this: these experiences and many others like them are the deepest, most meaningful, and most <em>real<\/em> parts of my life. And I\u2019ll be damned if I\u2019m going to let some skeptic tell me to rationalize them away because he can\u2019t fit them into his worldview and they make him uncomfortable.<\/p>\n<p>Experiences lead to beliefs, as we try to figure out what they mean. Beliefs lead to practices, as we try to re-create our experiences, and as we implement the messages we receive. And practices lead to more experiences, generating a virtuous circle of experience, belief, and practice.<\/p>\n<p>But please, don\u2019t take my word for it. A good religion can be inspired by one person\u2019s experience, but a healthy religion facilitates experiences for everyone. Experience the Gods and Nature for yourself.<\/p>\n<h1>A reasonable approach to ecstatic and magical religion<\/h1>\n<p>Facts and reason alone are insufficient to build a deep religion. But there\u2019s no need to abandon them as we build an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2017\/07\/takes-many-words-describe.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">ancestral, devotional, ecstatic, oracular, magical, public, Pagan polytheism<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>So you had a first-hand experience of\u2026 something. What did you see? What did you hear? What did you feel? What thoughts went through your head? Are those your own thoughts? Is it something you had no way of knowing? Something you know is true even though you don\u2019t want to accept it? Or perhaps, something you wish was true even though you know it\u2019s not\u2026<\/p>\n<p>The Gods rarely if ever appear in front of us and announce \u201cI AM ODIN!\u201d \u2013 and if something ever does, odds are good it\u2019s a lesser spirit that\u2019s lying to you. The Gods tend to be much more subtle and indirect. Why? I don\u2019t know \u2013 the Christian God is not the only one who works in mysterious ways. I suspect They know that if you aren\u2019t willing to put in a bit of research to figure out Who you\u2019re talking to, you\u2019re probably not going to be willing to do the work They want you to do for Them.<\/p>\n<p>Magic? There are plenty of different magical methods and traditions. Pick the one that calls to you, then approach it reasonably. Read and study. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2017\/07\/magic-amateurs-vs-professionals.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Practice diligently<\/a>. Keep good records. See what works and what doesn\u2019t. If something works, keep doing it. If it doesn\u2019t, try something else.<\/p>\n<p>Belief is irrelevant \u2013 do the spells right and you\u2019ll get the results. But practice long enough and eventually the results will force you to believe. Yes, coincidences happen. But coincidence after coincidence after coincidence is rarely coincidence.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/243\/2018\/02\/Imbolc-2018-04-782x411.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7707\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/243\/2018\/02\/Imbolc-2018-04-782x411.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"404\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h1>The proof is in the living<\/h1>\n<p>In our political arguments \u2013 particularly around contentious topics \u2013 we\u2019ve learned that if you confront most people with facts that contradict their beliefs, they\u2019ll bend over backwards to deny the facts and hang onto what they already believe. They\u2019re invested in their beliefs, and they don\u2019t want to have to admit they were wrong \u2013 even to themselves.<\/p>\n<p>We don\u2019t want to be like that. The truth always matters, even when it\u2019s hard and unpleasant. Even when it forces us to re-evaluate our ideas about how the world works and what is and isn\u2019t possible.<\/p>\n<p>And yet in the realm of religion, ultimate certainty is not possible. We can\u2019t know if our beliefs and practices are \u201cright.\u201d Our proof is more subjective.<\/p>\n<p>Does your religion help you deal with life? Does it provide meaning in the deaths of loved ones and other losses? Does it prepare you for the eventual certainty of your own death? If so, it\u2019s good.<\/p>\n<p>Does it help you understand your place in the universe? Does it help you build a model of the way the world works? Does it provide context for your experiences, both sacred and profane? If so, you\u2019re onto something.<\/p>\n<p>Does it inspire you to honor those who came before you, and to build a better world for those who come after you? Does it motivate you to sacrifice today for a better tomorrow, for yourself and for others? If so, you\u2019re on the right track.<\/p>\n<p>Does it help you form and maintain reciprocal relationships? Does inspire you to see the personhood in other people, other species, and other ecosystems? Does it challenge you to respect their sovereignty and autonomy? If so, you\u2019re following a good religion.<\/p>\n<p>We can\u2019t judge our religion by some ancient text. But we can judge it by the impact it has on our lives and the lives of others.<\/p>\n<p>If it works, keep doing it. If it doesn\u2019t, try something else.<\/p>\n<h1>This is why I\u2019m here<\/h1>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2018\/02\/one-year-later-lessons-p-exit.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">In the past week<\/a>, numerous people have talked about what good religion must do or should do\u2026 and by extension, what they think I should be writing about. They\u2019re welcome to their opinions, and if they identify as Pagans, there\u2019s room for them in the Big Tent of Paganism. I wish them well. But I know who I am and why I\u2019m here.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m here to present facts and reason in the face of oppressive religion. I\u2019m here to explore my religious experiences and to teach others how to have their own. I\u2019m here to interpret my experiences in the most meaningful ways possible.<\/p>\n<p>And I\u2019ll judge how well I\u2019m doing by its impact on my life and on the lives of those around me, especially those who read what I write and try it for themselves.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If there\u2019s one primary theme running through almost 10 years of blogging at Under the Ancient Oaks, it\u2019s this: religion is best approached through facts and reason, but reason alone will never build a deep and meaningful religion. 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