{"id":278,"date":"2014-06-03T00:43:47","date_gmt":"2014-06-03T00:43:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/justandsinner.culturezoo.webfactional.com\/?p=278"},"modified":"2014-06-03T00:43:47","modified_gmt":"2014-06-03T00:43:47","slug":"clarifying-the-issue-of-equal-ultimacy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/clarifying-the-issue-of-equal-ultimacy\/","title":{"rendered":"Clarifying the Issue of Equal Ultimacy"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"color: #000000\">I was asked by a reader to discuss the issue of equal ultimacy.<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Equal ultimacy is the idea that God predestines men to wrath in the same way that he predestines men to life. There is an exact parallel between election to salvation and reprobation. This position in Calvinist theology is labelled \u201csupralapsarianism.\u201d God decrees both salvation and reprobation, and then decrees the fall as the means of bringing this about.\u00a0<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">This is distinguished from the \u201cinfralapsarianism\u201d in which election and reprobation are described as two separate acts. Election is God\u2019s active choice of certain fallen men unto salvation; reprobation is God\u2019s passive allowance of the non-elect to remain in their fallen state. In other words, God chooses some for salvation out of the sinful lump of humanity while leaving the rest in their sin.\u00a0<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">These two positions are sometimes placed under a logical order (as opposed to a temporal order, since God transcends time) of God\u2019s decrees.\u00a0<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">The supralapsarian \u201corder of decrees\u201d are as follows:<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">1. God decrees to glorify Himself in election and reprobation<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">2. God decrees the fall as a means of bringing about election and reprobation<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">3. God decrees the death of Christ for the elect<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">And the infralapsarian view:<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">1. God decrees the fall<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">2. In view of the fall, God decrees the salvation of some, while allowing the rest to remain in their sin.<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">3. God decrees the death of Christ for the elect<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">This is an important distinction to make, because Lutherans too often characterize all Calvinists as being guilty of equal ultimacy, while infralapsarianism is the predominant view. Infralapsarianism is less problematic as it avoids making God the author of sin. However, both positions are inadequate for a couple of reasons.<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">First, both positions are based on a theology of glory wherein one is concerned with the eternal decrees of God, rather than God\u2019s revelation in Christ\u2013God hidden rather than God revealed\u2013God in Himself rather than God preached. While this may be an interesting intellectual exercise, it leads one far beyond the Biblical material on the issue. I highly doubt that Paul was contemplating the order of God\u2019s decrees as he penned the epistle to the Ephesians.<\/span><br style=\"color: #000000\"><br style=\"color: #000000\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Second, both of these positions place election as the central soteriological motif rather than the cross. The cross becomes merely the means of bringing about predestination\u2013hence limited atonement. In Lutheran (and Pauline) theology, election is God\u2019s choice to bring us to the cross. This is why election is always \u201cin Christ.\u201d The cross is at the center, and whatever other soteriological benefits are given are in view of this.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was asked by a reader to discuss the issue of equal ultimacy.Equal ultimacy is the idea that God predestines men to wrath in the same way that he predestines men to life. There is an exact parallel between election to salvation and reprobation. This position in Calvinist theology is labelled \u201csupralapsarianism.\u201d God decrees both [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2176,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[9,190],"class_list":["post-278","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-calvinism","tag-predestination"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Clarifying the Issue of Equal Ultimacy<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I was asked by a reader to discuss the issue of equal ultimacy.Equal ultimacy is the idea that God predestines men to wrath in the same way that he\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/clarifying-the-issue-of-equal-ultimacy\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Clarifying the Issue of Equal Ultimacy\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I was asked by a reader to discuss the issue of equal ultimacy.Equal ultimacy is the idea that God predestines men to wrath in the same way that he\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/clarifying-the-issue-of-equal-ultimacy\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Just and Sinner\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:author\" content=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/justandsinner\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2014-06-03T00:43:47+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Jordan Cooper\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:creator\" content=\"@JustandSinner\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Jordan Cooper\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/clarifying-the-issue-of-equal-ultimacy\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/clarifying-the-issue-of-equal-ultimacy\/\",\"name\":\"Clarifying the Issue of Equal Ultimacy\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2014-06-03T00:43:47+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2014-06-03T00:43:47+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/#\/schema\/person\/619743a3897d0330bfc686eba1380e2c\"},\"description\":\"I was asked by a reader to discuss the issue of equal ultimacy.Equal ultimacy is the idea that God predestines men to wrath in the same way that he\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/clarifying-the-issue-of-equal-ultimacy\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/clarifying-the-issue-of-equal-ultimacy\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/clarifying-the-issue-of-equal-ultimacy\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Clarifying the Issue of Equal Ultimacy\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/\",\"name\":\"Just and Sinner\",\"description\":\"\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/#\/schema\/person\/619743a3897d0330bfc686eba1380e2c\",\"name\":\"Jordan Cooper\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/justandsinner\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/14bc51bce0cafa87e1781d4f0a554bb6?s=96&d=identicon&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/14bc51bce0cafa87e1781d4f0a554bb6?s=96&d=identicon&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Jordan Cooper\"},\"description\":\"Jordan Cooper is the pastor of Faith Lutheran Church in Watseka, Illinois. 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