{"id":1123,"date":"2014-10-08T09:50:51","date_gmt":"2014-10-08T16:50:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/kermitzarleyblog\/?p=1123"},"modified":"2018-11-16T00:26:29","modified_gmt":"2018-11-16T07:26:29","slug":"talking-to-star-treks-gene-roddenberry-about-aliens-god-and-sci-fi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/kermitzarleyblog\/2014\/10\/talking-to-star-treks-gene-roddenberry-about-aliens-god-and-sci-fi\/","title":{"rendered":"My Talk with Star Trek&#8217;s Gene Roddenberry about Aliens, God, and Sci-Fi"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>(This post is an excerpt from a book I\u2019m writing.)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/347\/2014\/10\/StarTrek-1.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4348\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4348 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/347\/2014\/10\/StarTrek-1.jpg\" alt=\"StarTrek\" width=\"301\" height=\"188\"><\/a>In 1979, I met Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek. We were flying through the air with the greatest of ease, but it wasn\u2019t on a spaceship. We were on a big, 747 Boeing jet airliner flying from New York City to Morocco, North Africa. I was going to to play in a golf tournament hosted by the king of Morocco.<\/p>\n<p>I was told that Mr. Roddenberry was on the plane to participate in the king\u2019s golf tournament, too. So, I located him and introduced myself. We shook hands and I said, \u201cI think we have common interests. I\u2019m a student of Bible prophecy.\u201d Mr. Roddenberry smiled and graciously invited me to sit in the empty seat beside him. I gladly did. We then had a most interesting, private conversation that lasted for almost an hour. We talked the whole time about outer space, mysterious things on earth, and spiritual matters.<\/p>\n<p>Gene Roddenberry made that famous statement about outer space\u2014\u201cto boldly go where no man has gone before.\u201d As might be expected, he was obsessed with the idea of whether there are other intelligent beings in the universe besides us humans. So, he asked me, \u201cDo you believe in aliens in outer space.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I answered, \u201cYes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Gene\u2019s eyes got big and he was all ears. He excitedly said, \u201c<em>Really<\/em>?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I explained, trying keep back a grin, \u201cYeah, they are angels.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Roddenberry\u2019s countenance dropped like an astronaut falling out of the sky in a spacesuit. He annoyingly replied, \u201c<em>Oh<\/em>, I\u2019m not talking about <em>that<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I smiled and said, \u201cOh,\u201d as if I didn\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>Gene inquired again, \u201cBesides that; do you think there are aliens, intelligent beings, out there?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I answered seriously, \u201cI\u2019m not sure, Gene, but I doubt it. It\u2019s mostly because of one verse in the Bible.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He asked, \u201cWhat does it say?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I answered, \u201cIt says God created the heavens and the earth and that he made the earth to be inhabited.\u201d I explained that I thought it means God didn\u2019t make any other planets in the universe to be inhabitable by intelligent life forms comparable to us humans or superior to us.<\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t have that verse memorized, and I don\u2019t recall if I knew its reference. It is Isaiah 45.18, and it reads in the New Revised Standard Version of the Bible, \u201cFor thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (he is God!), who formed the earth and made it (he established it; he did not create it a chaos, he formed it to be inhabited!).\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Gene and I then talked about angels, demons, and UFOs. He was especially interested earthly evidence that purportedly reveals extraterrestrial beings have visited earth. I knew a little about this. So, I cited the Australian archaeologist Dr. Clifford Wilson and his small book, <em>Gods in Chariots and other Fantasies<\/em> (1975). I had it in my library at home, and I had read it, probably more than once. It provides what I thought are worthy explanations for some of these earthly mysteries. I explained that the title of this book means it was a rebuttal of the then popular book written by Erich von Daniken\u2014<em>The Chariots of the Gods<\/em> (1968).<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Roddenberry knew about von Daniken\u2019s book quite well since it was about a subject most dear to Gene\u2019s heart. In this book, Erich von Daniken offers some bizarre interpretations about certain Old Testament texts in the Bible. For example, he asserts that the Prophet Ezekiel describes angels landing spacecrafts on earth and posing as men. And Erich says during antiquity that extra-terrestrials visited earth and imparted to human beings knowledge with which to build the Pyramids in Egypt and Stonehenge in England. That is similar to inter-testamental, apocalyptic, Jewish literature, especially 1 Enoch 6-19, saying fallen angels visited earth and taught humans how to sin, including how to make weapons for war.<\/p>\n<p>After <em>The Chariots of the Gods<\/em> was published, the consensus among scientists and historians was that von Daniken had conducted pseudo-science and even plagiarism in it. Nevertheless, this book was adapted as a film documentary in Germany and, later, as a television documentary in the U.S.<\/p>\n<p>Gene Roddenberry and I had rather opposite philosophical and theological views about some of these matters. So, I don\u2019t think we persuaded each other about much or anything. And I didn\u2019t know much about Star Trek at that time. When I later saw some TV episodes of it, I realized that I agreed ethically with much of it.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Roddenberry and I certainly had a stimulating conversation that helped pass the time during that long, nine-hour airplane flight to Morocco. And heh, all you trekkies out there, I had the privilege of talking to your hero\u2014the creator of Star Trek\u2014about God, angels, aliens, UFOs, and other sci-fi stuff.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(This post is an excerpt from a book I\u2019m writing.) In 1979, I met Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek. We were flying through the air with the greatest of ease, but it wasn\u2019t on a spaceship. 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