{"id":4848,"date":"2009-06-26T15:12:25","date_gmt":"2009-06-26T15:12:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/leithart.level2d.com\/?p=1848"},"modified":"2017-09-06T23:43:31","modified_gmt":"2017-09-06T17:43:31","slug":"hebrew-and-hellenist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/leithart\/2009\/06\/hebrew-and-hellenist\/","title":{"rendered":"Hebrew and Hellenist"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\">\n<\/head><body><p><\/p><p> Yoder argues that from the time of the Babylonian captivity, the Jews developed a proto-\u201cfree church\u201d model of community life.  True in some respects.  Jews didn\u2019t have their own polity.  But I\u2019ve got doubts if that\u2019s a fair characterization of Jews in and after the exile. <\/p>\n<p> Why? The Bible for starters.  Jews in exile are not isolated in their ghettos.  They are seeking the peace of the city; Daniel, Nehemiah, Mordecai, Esther are the heroes of the time, and all fully integrated in imperial culture, whether Babylonian or Persian.  They weren\u2019t Amish. <\/p>\n<p> Then there\u2019s archeology.  Jewish synagogues are everywhere in the Eastern Mediterranean, and they aren\u2019t huddled off in some corner of the city.  Some of them are right on the main drag. <\/p>\n<p> If that\u2019s right, it didn\u2019t stay that way.  Jews did retreat into more isolated communities over time.  Which raises the question: What happened?  Christian hostility to Jews is a big part of that story.  But there\u2019s perhaps something more fundamental: AD 70. <\/p>\n<p>  <!--more--> Robert Wilken wrote long ago that \u201cthe bond between Judaism and the Graeco-Roman culture was torn asunder by the Roman-Jewish wars.  The epoch of Philo was the last in which the ideals of a brotherhood between Greeks and Jews could still be seriously envisaged.\u201d  AD 70 was the end of a world, the world that Jim Jordan calls the \u201coikoumene,\u201d a cooperative between Jews and Gentiles that God set up at the time of the first fall of Jerusalem. <\/p>\n<p> This has implications in several directions (perhaps).  With regard to Yoder: The detached, free-church model comes late, not at the time of the exile.  It\u2019s a product of the Lord\u2019s destruction of a unified Jew-and-Greco-Roman system.  The \u201cexilic\u201d model that is found in the OT is a model that prominently includes Jews who are thoroughly engaged with the empire \u2013 even to the point of being civil servants, advisors, and prophets to the king. <\/p>\n<p> More broadly: Wilken\u2019s point challenges any simplistic Hebraic\/Hellenistic dichotomy.  Up until AD 70, there was no such dichotomy. <\/p>\n<p> Finally, this also points to another of the ways in which AD 70 is the beginning of the Christian era.  Through the Jewish wars, Judaism was isolated from Greco-Roman civilization, and gradually the church moved into the vacuum.  As Tertullian claimed, the estrangement of Jews and Greeks meant that the church was the medium by which the antique wisdom and law of Judaism was brought into the Roman world. <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yoder argues that from the time of the Babylonian captivity, the Jews developed a proto-\u201cfree church\u201d model of community life. 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