{"id":23312,"date":"2007-02-18T06:22:00","date_gmt":"2007-02-18T06:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lookingcloser.wordpress.com\/2007\/02\/18\/the-latest-amazing-presumption-about-my-life-my-faith\/"},"modified":"2012-09-09T14:29:20","modified_gmt":"2012-09-09T20:29:20","slug":"the-latest-amazing-presumption-about-my-life-my-faith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lookingcloser\/2007\/02\/the-latest-amazing-presumption-about-my-life-my-faith\/","title":{"rendered":"The latest amazing presumption about my life, my faith"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Does this sound presumptuous to you?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The reality is [Mark, Peter, and Jeffrey] are guys who spend all day immersed in the culture of Hollywood, ostensibly \u201cscreening\u201d movies while others work real full time jobs to support them.*<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That claim, and another extensive attack on CT film critics, was posted by a Christian talk-show host today.<\/p>\n<p>What follows is a response to the accusation, not an \u201cattack\u201d on his character. He smote us with that accusation. Allow me to hold up the facts, and you can decide for yourself whether his accusation sticks. (And I have provided you the link to his blog, so you can read his words in context, even though he continues to claim that I am quoting him \u201cout of context.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>But wait, there was more. The same paragraph continued:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>I suppose if you expose yourself to one culture long enough \u2013 in this case the culture of Hollywood \u2013 you have to adapt to survive. These guys do not have one foot in the mainstream culture and another in the evangelical culture. They are totally immersed in this world\u2019s way of viewing things, and it comes through in the way they disdainfully dismiss the honest work of honest Christians \u2026 <\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This all appeared under this headline:<br>\n<strong>\u201cCHRISTIANITY TODAY MOVIE REVIEWERS LAUNCH CHARACTER ATTACK AGAINST MICHAEL LANDON, JR. AND [name of show-host respectfully deleted].\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nope. It\u2019s the other way around. We are not launching an attack. We are responding to specific accusations that he initiated before we\u2019d ever heard of him. It started with their claim that I and my colleagues at CT are not acting with evangelical conviction. I responded to that yesterday. <a href=\"http:\/\/lookingcloser.blogspot.com\/2007\/02\/are-christianity-todays-movies-reviews.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">You can read that post here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>But since this paragraph introduces <strong>a whole new wave of claims, <\/strong>let me address those claims. Not to attack a person \u2026 but to reveal a claim that is a lie (or at least a severe misapprehension).<\/p>\n<p>Am I spending all of my time immersed in Hollywood culture, away from evangelical culture?<\/p>\n<p>Do I spend all my time at screenings and in Hollywood, while someone else supports me?<\/p>\n<p>How do I spend my time, anyway? What is my full-time job? With whom do I keep company? (I can\u2019t believe someone who lives halfway across the country, and who has never met me, is making public claims about how I spend my time, or that I have to answer those claims. The many who know me will see the truth plainly, but the rest may need me to clarify so\u2026 here we go.)<\/p>\n<p>As I freely confess on my site, in my book, at the CT site, and beyond, <strong>I work <em>full-time<\/em> at Seattle Pacific University<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m proud of my full-time job. I love my full-time job. I don\u2019t try to hide that. Nine hours a day, in fact, working as a contriuting editor for Seattle Pacific\u2019s <em>Response<\/em> magazine, and managing public relations projects for the school. Most of my time is spent seeking to fulfill the mission of the University. This month, I am researching and writing an article about the problem of Biblical illiteracy in America and in the church \u2026 an interesting subject for a writer that this show-host claims is out of touch with scriptural truth. That has little or nothing to do with moviegoing (although I occasionally write an article about film for their magazine).<\/p>\n<p>That would be a strange job indeed for for someone without evangelical conviction.<\/p>\n<p>Do you think SPU would have given me that position, and that their professors would routinely invite me to speak to their classes about issues of art and faith, if I was not driven by evangelical conviction?<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m a long way from spending my days immersed in the culture of Hollywood. I live in a city on the north side of Seattle \u2026 a long way from Hollywood. And I write about film in my spare time.<\/p>\n<p>And how much time do I spend attending screenings? (The show-host put the word \u201cscreenings\u201d in quotation marks. When publicists host a sneak preview for critics, they call it a \u201cScreening.\u201d I\u2019m just using the industry term.) I spend about two hours, oh, maybe twice or three times a month, at the movies. I\u2019ve been to a theater twice in the last month. My last rental from Netflix has been sitting on the TV for three weeks, untouched.<\/p>\n<p>My guess is that many of you are more \u201cimmersed\u201d in Hollywood culture than that.<\/p>\n<p>And what about Mark Moring and Peter Chattaway? Are they hip-deep in Hollywood culture?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mark works full-time for <em>Christianity Today<\/em><\/strong> as an editor of their movies and music page. Nine out of ten times I call him in Carol Stream, Illinois, he\u2019s at his desk. How can he be there, at the headquarters for Christianity Today International, and spend all of his time \u201cimmersed in Hollywood culture\u201d? Heck, Mark isn\u2019t even one of the regular movie reviewers at CT. He does not spend much time at critics\u2019 screenings. (Although he did get to go to Italy to write articles about the making of <em>The Nativity Story<\/em>, lucky dog!) So the accusations fall far short there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And Peter, well\u2026 the guy is the new father of twins. In Canada. <\/strong>He\u2019s not spending all of his time up there in Vancouver B.C. \u201cimmersed in the culture of Hollywood,\u201d I promise you that. The guy spends so much time writing for <em>Christianity Today<\/em>, CandadianChristianity.com, and other publications that the show-host\u2019s claims fall very short indeed.<\/p>\n<p>And for the record, I\u2019ve been to Hollywood about four, maybe five, times in my life \u2026 for an overnight stay \u2026 and then come back to the Pacific Northwest, where I spend time \u201cimmersed\u201d in community at Seattle Pacific University and GreenLake Presbyterian Church. Not Hollywood culture. I go to the Oregon Coast more often than I go to Hollywood.<\/p>\n<p>But you know that. You read my work.<\/p>\n<p>Eventually I\u2019m going to just give up on trying to contend with the show-host\u2019s claims, because, well, folks can just go on inventing things about you all day.<\/p>\n<p>He calls my responses an \u201cattack\u201d on his character. I\u2019m sorry, but you can\u2019t go around spreading false accusations against me and my evangelical colleagues and expect us to thank you for it. This is a defense of my work, and the work of my Christian colleagues (whether they are Presbyterian, Catholic, or Orthodox).<\/p>\n<p>If I have made a false claim about this show-host, point it out to me in an email at joverstreet [at] gmail [dot] com, and I will think that over. But as I scroll back through these posts, I don\u2019t see one.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Does this sound presumptuous to you? 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