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In my post on how I lost faith in the pro-life movement<\/a>, I wrote two things about zygotes. First, I wrote about the utter lack of concern the pro-life movement shows for saving the huge number of zygotes \u2013 i.e. fertilized eggs \u2013 that are naturally expelled from women\u2019s bodies before they even have an inkling that a pregnancy may be about to begin. Second, I wrote that because birth control prevents ovulation, those who believe that zygotes are the moral equivalent of people should be working to put every woman on the pill so as to reduce the number of zygotes expelled from the body, and thus killed.<\/p>\n

Some anti-abortion readers made clear in their comments on my post that they missed both of my points entirely. One pro-life website, Life Action News, put up a post responding to my points by similarly missing them. This post was called \u201cIntroducing Ziggy the Zygote in \u2026 Adventures in the Uterus!<\/a>\u201d It started with this introduction:<\/p>\n

NOTE: In her recent post \u201cHow I Lost Faith in the Pro-Life Movement<\/a>,\u201d blogger Libby Anne suggested that zygotes \u201cflushed out\u201d of women\u2019s bodies naturally are not at all different from zygotes that cannot implant because of artificial birth control. Because she really does not seem to understand our very simple argument, I am going to approach the issue using small words and a kindly, loveable fictional character, Ziggy the Zygote.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The post continued as follows:<\/p>\n

Hey, boys and girls! I\u2019m Ziggy, and I\u2019m a zygote! Nice to meetcha!<\/p>\n

According to\u00a0SCIENCE!<\/a>, I am a human being!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Every time someone who is anti-abortion talks about a zygote, or fetus, or whatever, being a \u201chuman being\u201d or a \u201cperson\u201d or \u201clife,\u201d we need to talk about defining terms. For instance, life doesn\u2019t begin at conception. Life began 4 billion years ago and has been continuous since. Both eggs and sperm are \u201calive\u201d before they come together. As another example, skin cells and hair are also human, just like a zygote. I don\u2019t see people getting all up in arms about saving skin cells. Finally, the term \u201cperson\u201d is a legal concept, and, currently, having been \u201cborn alive\u201d is one of the requirements. (The same with \u201chuman being.\u201d) You\u2019re probably starting to get my point. Simply asserting \u201cAccording to SCIENCE!, I am a human being!\u201d is simplistic, misleading, and quite simply false.<\/p>\n

I know what yer thinkin\u2019 \u2013 \u201cHey, I know what human beings look like, and you don\u2019t look like me!\u201d Hyuck, hyuck! Well, I sure don\u2019t! But then again, neither does your grandma, or your baby cousin! Human beings look different at different stages of development. This is what\u00a0you\u00a0<\/em>looked like, once upon a time. Pretty hard to believe, huh? Welp, it\u2019s true!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

*facepalm*<\/p>\n

I mean, really? Really?<\/em><\/p>\n

The author says that people look different at different stages of development, and this is true. You don\u2019t look exactly like your grandmother. But you know what? You actually, uh, look like<\/em> your grandmother. You do not, in contrast, look anything<\/em> like a zygote.<\/p>\n

Here is your grandmother:<\/p>\n

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Here is a zygote:<\/p>\n

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Notice the resemblance? Yeah, me neither.<\/p>\n

While the author focuses on appearance \u2013 and fails in her argument there \u2013 appearance is not so important as what characterizes personhood. People, for instance, are self aware. Zygotes, in contrast, are not. People have a nervous system and can think and feel pain, zygotes don\u2019t and can\u2019t do either. People are physically autonomous, zygotes are not. The idea that a zygote should be in the same category as you or your grandmother is silly.<\/p>\n

When a lady gets pregnant \u2013 ask yer parents for more information on that! \u2013 I form in her belly. About a week later, I IMPLANT, which means I grab on to the wall of my special home, the UTERUS, and hold on tight so I can get bigger and eventually come on out into the world! Hyuck, hyuck!<\/p>\n

But sometimes, I don\u2019t grab on. I float away and don\u2019t grow up into a full-grown person. It\u2019s just one of those things!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s just one of those things\u201d? \u201cIt\u2019s just one of those things\u201d?!? But see, that was my point!<\/em>\u00a0Do we say that when people get cancer? Do we say that when a baby is born with spina bifida? No! We always, always, always try to find a way to save people\u2019s lives, no matter the kind of disability or disease they suffer. If abortion opponents really believe that zygotes and embryos are people just like your or I, where is all the research<\/a> to stop the loss of zygotes and embryos through failure to implant or early miscarriage? Why do those who claim to believe that zygotes and embryos are as much people as you or I focus solely on elective abortions and ignore natural abortions (aka miscarriages)?<\/p>\n

Now, some ladies take pills called BIRTH CONTROL. These pills are supposed to keep Ziggy the Zygote from ever existing, but sometimes they don\u2019t work quite right, and the zygote grows anyway. These pills can keep Ziggy the Zygote from being able to grab on to the uterus. Ziggy the Zygote can end up flushed away! Awwww!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Actually, studies have found that this is not true<\/em><\/a>. The pill prevents ovulation, which means that no zygotes are created. In the case of \u201cbreakthrough ovulation,\u201d well, a small percentage of women do become pregnant on the pill, right? The pill doesn\u2019t prevent implantation, and zygotes that result from breakthrough ovulation have the same chance of implanting and growing into people that any other zygotes do.<\/p>\n

Libby Anne says that ladies who don\u2019t take birth control lose more zygotes than ladies who do, and if we\u2019re really PRO-LIFE, we should WANT ladies to take birth control because it will SAVE ZYGOTES.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Yes, this is exactly what I said, and it\u2019s true<\/em><\/a>. Because the body naturally expels 50% of all fertilized eggs, and because birth control prevents women from ovulating, women on birth control expel fewer fertilized eggs than those not on birth control. So if you believe a fertilized egg is a person, and that every time your body expels a fertilized egg you are committing\u00a0involuntary\u00a0manslaughter, well, you should naturally want to do whatever you can to reduce the number of eggs your body expels.<\/p>\n

As I said above, studies have found that the pill does not actually prevent a zygote from implanting in a woman\u2019s uterus. However, the point I made in my original post was that even if the pill did prevent zygotes from implanting, and even if it did so at the rates exact abortion opponents use in their literature, your body would still kill many, many, many<\/em> fewer zygotes (by expelling them) on the pill than not<\/em> on the pill.<\/p>\n

Well, golly, I\u2019m just a dumb little zygote, but even I know the difference between a natural, very early miscarriage as intended by God or nature or whatever ya wanna call it, and taking a pill that INTENTIONALLY ends lives.\u00a0Hyuck, hyuck!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Oh. My. Word.<\/p>\n

Well okay then. The author of this post argues that the natural \u201cdeath\u201d of a zygote is a-okay because it\u2019s what God intended. Do we say this about cancer? Do we say this about strokes? Do we say this about multiple\u00a0sclerosis? No<\/em>.\u00a0If the author of this piece is to be consistent, she must be against modern medicine, since it gets in the way of what God intends. Somehow, though, I doubt she thinks twice before taking aspirin.<\/p>\n

And let me say this, too. Just because something is natural doesn\u2019t mean we don\u2019t try to subvert it. I mean, my goodness, we subvert nature all the time! Think about cars, and houses, and cell phones! The idea that it makes sense for people who believe that zygotes are the moral equivalent of you or I to not give a shit about trying to prevent zygotes from dying simply because those zygotes die naturally? <\/em>I\u2019m sorry, but no. Just, no. If you really believe those zygotes are the moral\u00a0equivalent\u00a0of people, equal in value and worth, you ought to be very<\/em> interested in finding out why<\/em> they fail to implant and trying to see if they can be saved. Since, after all, they\u2019re people<\/em>. Anyone who could believe that and do otherwise is a monster.<\/p>\n

I mean, if a lady never knows she\u2019s pregnant and nature takes its course, that\u2019s one thing. But if a lady knowingly takes a pill that might end a zygote\u2019s life, that\u2019s another. What if the zygote \u201cflushed away\u201d by that pill was one of the ones that God or nature (or whatever ya wanna call it!) intended to grab hold and grow up?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Wait, what? We can, with our actions, prevent what God intends from occurring? How does that<\/em> make any sense? If God intends for a zygote to implant in a uterus, how could humans stop that from happening? Isn\u2019t God supposed to be all powerful? And more than that, don\u2019t we prevent what God intends every time we treat cancer? Every time we set a broken leg? Every time we use electronic shocks to restart someone\u2019s heart?<\/p>\n

Makes you think, doesn\u2019t it?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Really? Who\u2019s the one who needs to do some more thinking here?<\/p>\n

Boys and girls, there is a thing called INTENT. And it matters a lot! INTENT, in a court of law, can be the difference between life and death! Did you intend for someone to die? That\u2019s an important\u00a0MORAL<\/a>\u00a0question! (Link added for the benefit of pro-choicers.)<\/p>\n

A lady who doesn\u2019t take pills may lose zygotes, but that is the result of natural, biological processes that happen in every lady\u2019s tummy. A lady who does take pills takes nature into her own hands, and a human being \u2013 even a little one like me \u2013 dies because of it. That\u2019s very different from nature doing it! Don\u2019t ya think?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is the only part of the entire post that makes any sense at all.<\/p>\n

Let me start by pointing out that research has found that the pill does not prevent zygotes from implanting. The folks behind Life Action News, however, refuse to believe that science. They shouldn\u2019t be so skeptical. I mean, if they\u2019re really interested in saving zygotes from being killed, shouldn\u2019t they be rejoicing that studies are finding that the pill does not kill zygotes, and in fact, that the pill could be a perfect way for women to keep their bodies from killing embryos? Seriously, shouldn\u2019t that be the best news ever?<\/p>\n

And more than that, even if studies were<\/em> finding that the pill did result in a few zygotes being expelled from the uterus, shouldn\u2019t those who want to prevent the natural deaths of zygotes be interested in improving the pill so that breakthrough ovulation wouldn\u2019t ever occur? For example, if you could eliminate breakthrough ovulation, then there would be no question about the possibility of the pill preventing zygotes from implanting. Think how many zygote deaths could be prevented! In other words, even if the pill did<\/em> prevent the implantation of some zygotes, why should those who believe zygotes are the equivalent of people see the pill only as an enemy instead of a possible solution in need of improvement?<\/p>\n

To quickly address the point about intent, however, I would say this: If I took the pill with the intent of keeping my body from natural expelling zygotes, even knowing that there was a very small chance that taking the pill could prevent a zygote from implanting and I knew it, wouldn\u2019t my intent be positive? My intent would be to save lives, not to end them, and the result of my actions would be fewer deaths. (I\u2019ll address this point more thoroughly using an analogy at the end of this post.)<\/p>\n

Finally, the author of this point once again brings up the idea of \u201ctaking nature into your own hands\u201d as though it\u2019s both negative and something that we don\u2019t normally do, and once again she makes light of the zygotes a woman\u2019s body expels naturally \u2013 zygotes she supposedly views as no different in value or worth than you or I. This was the point I was trying to make \u2013 as long as people like this author speak so cavalierly about the death of zygotes, I cannot for the life of me believe that they actually see these zygotes as the moral equivalent of a person \u2013 even though they themselves claim they do. The conclusion I keep coming to is that either they don\u2019t actually see zygotes as people like your or I, or they do and they are moral monsters.<\/p>\n

Ziggy the Zygote trusts nature more than a pill that can be harmful to a lady and end a zygote\u2019s life in the process!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Once again we have my two points being combined here \u2013 the idea that zygotes dying naturally is a-okay and the idea that women who take the pill are murderers. But once again, this doesn\u2019t work. Why? Because the author clearly sees nothing wrong<\/em> with zygotes dying naturally. Nothing<\/em>. In fact, the author argues that we shouldn\u2019t try to prevent it, because it\u2019s what God intends<\/em>. (Can I say how glad I am that we as a society don\u2019t approach cancer that way?) Remember when the author argued that there is no difference in worth or value between a zygote and your grandmother?<\/em><\/p>\n

The idea that the author could argue that zygotes are just as much people as your grandmother and then show literally no care for the half of all zygotes that naturally fail to implant is morally horrifying enough without adding that the author goes on to say that a woman on the pill \u2013 even if she is on the pill with the intent of keeping her body from ovulating and thus keeping zygotes from being naturally expelled from her body \u2013 is a murderer because she might possibly expel a zygote if she experiences breakthrough ovulation (something studies are finding does not happen<\/em>).<\/p>\n

It\u2019s almost like the author cares more about making sure women don\u2019t take the pill than she does about preventing the deaths of the zygotes she claims to view as people just as much as you, I, or your grandmother. In fact, it\u2019s exactly<\/em> like the author cares more about keeping women from using birth control than she does about preventing the deaths of the zygotes she claims to care so much about.<\/p>\n

Well, boys and girls, that\u2019s it for today\u2019s lesson! I hope this has helped some of you understand the MORAL difference between natural processes and artificial contraception. See ya real soon!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I know I\u2019m starting to repeat myself here, but really? Really?<\/em>\u00a0My mind is boggled.<\/p>\n

We treat people with cancer, and you know what? That\u2019s artificial! We treat people with heart disease, and you know what? The \u201cnatural\u201d process would simply be letting them die. But we don\u2019t do that. You know why we don\u2019t do that? Because we have hearts!<\/em> Because we assign value<\/em> to humanity! Because we believe that people matter<\/em>, and have worth!\u00a0<\/em>And this is why, like I said above, I can\u2019t bring myself to believe that people like this author actually believe that zygotes are just as much people with rights and worth as you or I. In trying to refute this point, which I made in my original post, the author of this piece merely reaffirms it.<\/p>\n

And let me say one more thing about the whole idea that taking the pill makes you a murderer because the pill might accidentally make your body expel a zygote, even though in the process it will be keeping your body from naturally expelling a great many more embryos. I\u2019ll use an analogy:<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s say you\u2019re an army commander and you see that enemy aircraft have just arrived above your troops\u2019 position. Your men are about to be shot down like rabbits, and you\u2019ve estimated that the death toll will probably be around fifty percent. Fortunately, you have anti-aircraft weapons and you know you can take down the enemy planes. However, you know that some of those planes might go down on top of a few of your troops. Or, they might not. You have no way of knowing whether shooting down those planes might unintentionally cause the deaths of some of your men. However, you know for 100% for sure that if you do nothing, half of your men will die. What is the moral and ethical choice here? Because if we follow the logic the author of the Life Action News article uses, the correct choice is to do nothing so as to avoid the chance that you might accidentally cause the deaths of some of your men. The correct choice is to watch half of your men die while you do nothing to prevent it.<\/p>\n

As the way abortion opponents approach zygotes and the pill makes stunningly clear, there is no logic, and certainly no morality, in the positions of the pro-life movement.<\/p>\n

Note: A reader has pointed out that in the introduction to the Life Action News piece, the author promised to show that the zygotes naturally flushed out of a woman\u2019s body are somehow different from zygotes that fail to implant because of birth control (and just so this fact doesn\u2019t get overlooked, I\u2019ll say it again: studies are finding that the pill does not keep zygotes from implanting). However, the author of the piece focused not on any differences between the zygotes but instead simply on women\u2019s intentions and, I suppose, on God\u2019s intentions. In other words, the author argues that if God intends for a zygote to die, all well and good, but, in contrast, if a woman takes any action that may result in a zygote dying, whether that\u2019s her intention or not, she is committing murder. There was no attention at all spent on showing any sort of actual difference, in worth, value, etc, between zygotes that are naturally rejected from a woman\u2019s body and those that hypothetically could be rejected because of hormonal changes resulting from the pill.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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