\u2026seriously, guys actually think that women dress for them? What sort of thought processes do they imagine go into picking out clothing? For me it\u2019s mostly<\/p>\n
\u2018is this clean?\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018does it more or less match\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018will my mother say it makes me look like an old woman with too many cats\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018would I get looked at funny for walking around the mall like this\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018is it comfortable enough to wear all day\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018is it situation-appropriate\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018is it weather-appropriate\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018does it reveal the fact that I haven\u2019t shaved my armpits\/legs in way too long\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018is my hair going to get caught in the zipper\/buttons\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018is my bra visible through my shirt\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018do my pants stay up without a belt\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018do I flash people when I bend over\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018where did that nice shirt go \u2014 why can I never find anything\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018these pantyhose have a run in them \u2014 can\u2019t wear a skirt\u2019<\/p>\n
\u2018this shirt is getting see-through \u2014 why are girl-clothes so flimsy\u2019<\/p>\n
etc.<\/p>\n
Girl-clothes are complicated. I, personally, am not a particularly \u2018on top of things\u2019 sort of person and just getting dressed in appropriate clothes requires way too much thought to add the variable of \u2018what will dudes think of me in this\u2019. Mind you, I\u2019m also asexual and things like that just don\u2019t (usually) occur to me. I will think of \u2018will this make people stare at me\u2019, but sexual attraction-related thoughts tend to come somewhere\u00a0after<\/em>\u00a0clothing-related doomsday scenarios.<\/p>\nAlso, I will sometimes say \u2018I give up\u2019 and go with, I don\u2019t know, sweatpants and a corset because I like sweatpants and I like corsets and I sometimes just don\u2019t have the energy to think of everything.\u00a0(Seventeen years of school uniforms, plus ADD and sporadic depression, in case you\u2019re wondering.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
I think tsara makes an excellent point, and it\u2019s one I plan to follow up on in some future posts. There seems to be a subset of men that assumes that women dress always and solely for the benefit of the men around them, and this seems to feed into both the idea that women are fair game for public consumption (think street harassment) and the idea that women should<\/em> be dressing for men, but so as to avoid men\u2019s attention and not vice versa (think the modesty doctrine).<\/p>\nSo I have to ask. What goes through your head when you<\/em> get dressed? What considerations do you weigh? Do you dress only for yourself, and when do you dress for others? And guys, how about you? A comparison might be interesting.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"“\u2026seriously, guys actually think that women dress for them? What sort of thought processes do they imagine go into picking out clothing? For me it\u2019s mostly \u2018is this clean?\u2019 \u2018does it more or less match\u2019 \u2018will my mother say it makes me look like an old woman with too many cats\u2019 \u2018would I get looked at funny for walking around the mall like this\u2019 \u2018is it comfortable enough to wear all day\u2019 …”<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":845,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[131],"class_list":["post-11584","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-feminism","tag-modesty"],"yoast_head":"\n
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