{"id":14851,"date":"2013-04-26T05:35:59","date_gmt":"2013-04-26T09:35:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/?p=14851"},"modified":"2013-04-26T10:16:33","modified_gmt":"2013-04-26T14:16:33","slug":"ctbhhm-taming-wild-horses-and-lassoing-bears","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/2013\/04\/ctbhhm-taming-wild-horses-and-lassoing-bears.html","title":{"rendered":"CTBHHM: Taming Wild Horses and Lassoing Bears"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

Created To Be His Help Meet<\/a>, pp. 105-106<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Weirdly, this passage actually succeeded in making me more angry than have just about all of the passages so far, but in some sense a different sort<\/em> of angry. Rather than just saying \u201cWhat?! No!\u201d after every sentence, I\u2019m going to make four distinct points as I address what she said (along with plenty of \u201cWhat?! No!\u201ds, of course): The variation within each gender overlaps; Much of what we perceive as innate gender roles is actually socially constructed; Men aren\u2019t foreign entities and shouldn\u2019t be viewed as such; and Masculinity and\u00a0femininity\u00a0have been defined differently in different societies and at different times. Now, with that outline, let\u2019s get started!<\/p>\n

God created man with a nature that is aggressive, and then commanded him to\u00a0exercise\u00a0dominion over\u00a0the\u00a0earth (Gen. 1:28). He created the male sex with an extra dose of testosterone, which\u00a0provokes\u00a0him to want to work hard,\u00a0conquer\u00a0everything in his path, and subdue all things. This is why the male sex is at the forefront of military conquests, exploration, architecture, science, inventions, etc.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

You know, the fact that women have in many cultures been barred from the military might play a role in the male sex being at its forefront, for example. Heck, for that matter, the fact that women have in many societies been barred from things like exploration, architecture, science, and inventions might play a role as well! Debi also seems to be oblivious to the fact that there have been important female military leaders, explorers, architects, scientists, and inventors. Marie Curie, anyone?<\/p>\n

Also, by bringing both testosterone and the Bible into the picture, Debi is using both God\u00a0and<\/em>\u00a0\u201cscience\u201d to back up her assertions. But the problem is the same as the problem young earth creationists have\u2014when they appeal to science, they are doing\u00a0bad<\/em>\u00a0science. And that leads us to:<\/p>\n

Point #1:<\/strong> It\u2019s true that men do have more testosterone than women, but research shows that\u00a0men and women overlap more psychologically than they differ<\/a>. In other words, for every man who feels the need to conquer and subdue, there is a woman who feel the same\u2014and a man who doesn\u2019t feel this need at all. It\u2019s a spectrum and continuum, not a dichotomy\u2014human experience varies from individual to individual, and isn\u2019t something you can simply shove into neat and tidy boxes.<\/p>\n

No woman would ever go out and tame a wild horse and make a rope out of its mane and tail, and then go out and find a bear and lasso it just to prove that she could\u2014laughing the whole time.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Believe it or not, I don\u2019t know a single man<\/em> who would do that either. And that, I think, is the problem with what Debi is doing in this section. Like I said above, men and women exist on a continuum, not in a completely separated dichotomy. There may be a few men out there who would do what Debi describes\u2014but if there are, there are almost certainly a few women who would do it as well.<\/p>\n

If women were inventors, they would make minivans. Men make four-wheel drive vehicles and then modify them so that they will stand higher and drive faster. They will even put a winch on the front so they can traverse places meant only for alligators or mountain goats.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

But women are<\/em> inventors (here\u2019s a short list<\/a>). In fact, it might surprise Debi to know that the windshield wiper was invented by a woman,<\/em> for instance\u2014and that\u2019s without even getting into it.<\/p>\n

Debi says female inventors (if they existed) would invent useful things while male inventors invent fast and big and dangerous things\u2014but if this\u00a0were true, wouldn\u2019t having woman inventors be a good<\/em> thing? I\u2019ve often thought that if what people like Debi say about men and women was actually true\u2014if women really were extra caring and nurturing and practical while men were extra aggressive and militaristic and impractical\u2014the natural conclusion ought to be that women should rule the world and protect men from themselves<\/em>. But that\u2019s never the conclusion women like Debi come to. Instead, they often almost seem to say \u201cmen are assholes, but they are the assholes God put in charge.\u201d<\/p>\n

Men fly to the moon, climb treacherous mountains, fight wild animals, challenge each other at any sport, and laugh with loud\u00a0hilarious\u00a0delight the whole time. They like to play or watch games where they knock each other down, just to prove who is the strongest and toughest. Everything they do must end with a testosterone-driven climax. And they think we ladies are hard to understand!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Does Debi seriously think that no woman has ever been to the moon because no woman has ever wanted to go to the moon? <\/em>Really? Also, believe it or not, there are female mountain climbers. And yes, there are female boxers. And actually, not every man likes to play or watch games where they knock each other down! Some men aren\u2019t interested in proving who is the strongest and toughest! Arg, Debi!<\/em><\/p>\n

Point #2:<\/strong> To the extent that men are more interested in proving who is the strongest and toughest than are women (and given the variability within each gender that I already mentioned, I\u2019m not sure to what extent this is actually true), how are we supposed to know what of that is actually testosterone \u00a0(or other biological differences) and what is social conditioning? After all, our society encourages\u00a0boys to be daring and competitive and encourages girls to be compassionate and caring. And as that changes\u2014and it has been changing\u2014we\u2019ve seen an increasing number of women interested in these supposedly masculine areas. In other words, Debi is completely ignoring the role of social conditioning in forcing men and women into the gender roles society lays out for them.<\/p>\n

Point #3:<\/strong> Also, and this has been bothering me for a while, what is the good in perpetuating this idea that men are these foreign beings that are impossible to understand? In a world of increasingly fluid gender roles and greater equality, this is simply not true, if it ever really was. When people say the other sex is hard to understand, what they really mean is they don\u2019t want to try, and would rather write them off as \u201cthe other.\u201d This isn\u2019t healthy and it certainly<\/em> does not foster understanding between men and women\u2014or mature relationships.<\/p>\n

A woman can do just about anything a man can do, but it is always the men who invent it and then eventually invite the ladies along just to make it more interesting. Testosterone again!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Uhhh . . . wow. Look, you can\u2019t actually write off every bit of gender inequality that exists by attributing it to testosterone and thus making it unchangeable and natural. Also, this is incredibly respectful to all of the amazing women who have been powerful leaders, intelligent inventors, and determined athletes in their own rights. Does Debi really think that men invited politics and then invited Margaret Thatcher along just to make politics more interesting?!<\/p>\n

A few ladies will always step out and play the men\u2019s games, trying to prove a gender point. The men don\u2019t need a point to prove; they just need to vent. Men are different. We must face it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

*headdesk*<\/p>\n

Believe it or not, not every woman who has ever stepped into a supposedly \u201cmale\u201d arena has done so \u201cto prove a gender point.\u201d Believe it or not, lots of women actually honestly want<\/em> to be in a supposedly \u201cmale\u201d arena. Serena Williams, anyone? Pearl Buck? Hilary Clinton? And again, there are plenty of men who don\u2019t<\/em> want to be entrepreneurs, explorers, and inventors, and who find traditional male sports like boxing barbaric\u2014what of them? This entire section is insulting to every<\/em> gender . . .<\/p>\n

Thankfully, men and women were not all created alike. Men were created with traits that I do not want as part of me<\/span>! But, when I married, it was, of course, to one of those strange male creatures with those traits.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\u201cOne of those strange male creatures.\u201d Again with the othering. This is something Debi does throughout the book, and it is increasingly grating on me. The goal should be to foster mutual understanding as fellow human beings, but the way Debi goes about it sounds like reading from a zoology textbook.<\/p>\n

When we ladies discover traits in a man like sensitivity, spirituality, and understanding, we are thrilled, because they contrast so starkly with the many coarser and visible traits that so strongly drive his nature.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Or, maybe we\u2019re thrilled because we like<\/em> traits like sensitivity, spirituality, and understanding. Maybe we\u2019re thrilled because we realize that the men are from Mars\/women are from Venus dichotomy Debi is perpetuating here is a load of bull. Maybe we\u2019re thrilled because relationships are formed based on things like understanding, not killing wild boars.<\/p>\n

Also, is it just me or this actually an extremely insulting way to talk about men?<\/p>\n

Point #4:<\/strong> This is making me think of the Progressive Era, when reformers became concerned that middle class American men had become \u201csissified\u201d by their \u201cmore civilized,\u201d desk job lives. The Boy Scouts, with its \u201cmanly\u201d wilderness training, was one result of this concern. The goal was to create a specific type of masculinity in men who had become \u201cfeminized\u201d by changing economic situations. Yet even this followed a period when the refined man, who spoke in poetry and emotion and avoided the \u201cvulgar\u201d activities of lower class men, was viewed by the middle and upper classes as very apex of masculinity \u00a0The point I\u2019m making here is that what is \u201cmanly\u201d and what is \u201cfeminine\u201d is actually socially contextualized, and changes and shifts over time. Debi is clearly unaware of that, and has chosen to freeze forever what is \u201cmasculine\u201d and what is \u201cfeminine\u201d\u2014and if you ask me, she\u2019s chosen a very dangerous place to freeze those categories.<\/p>\n

After all, having a nature to subdue all things, he likes best a woman who will give him a token struggle and then surrender to his wit, charm, and strength. He must thoroughly conquer. It is a battle I always enjoy losing. I like to be conquered and consumed by my man. That is my created nature.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I . . . no . . . seriously?<\/em><\/p>\n

This is what I meant about this being a dangerous point to freeze gender stereotypes.<\/p>\n

To keep it brief, these sentences are shot through with what feminists refer to as \u201crape culture<\/a>.\u201d This idea that all men want to conquer and all women want to be conquered\u2014it\u2019s really not that hard to see how these conceptions might lead to men pushing past women\u2019s physical boundaries, convinced that although they might be putting up a struggle, they really want<\/em> to give in. It\u2019s because of this sort of thing that the \u201cno means no\u201d and \u201cyes means yes\u201d campaigns, working to educate people about consent, are so important.<\/p>\n

So, let\u2019s review: Men and women are more psychologically alike than they are different, gender roles and stereotypes are affected through social conditioning (i.e., people are affected by how they\u2019re told they\u2019re \u201csupposed to be\u201d), it\u2019s unhealthy to \u201cother\u201d the opposite gender and treat them as though they were completely\u00a0foreign\u00a0and different, and ideas about what constitutes \u201cmasculinity\u201d and \u201cfemininity\u201d are not constant but rather change over time and across society\u2014but Debi does not know or chooses to ignore all of this<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n

I would give a lot to see Debi in a women\u2019s studies class. Everything she said in this passage was either a flat out lie or else twisted until it might as well be. But perhaps the greatest danger of this passage is the way it pushes men and women into these stereotypes by telling them that this is how they are naturally supposed to be and erasing anything that might not fit into Debi\u2019s neat little dichotomy. Men and women are here described as races foreign to each other, and also as monoliths. Neither is correct and neither is healthy.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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