{"id":174,"date":"2012-01-22T21:32:00","date_gmt":"2012-01-22T21:32:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/2012\/01\/dealing-with-death-as-an-atheist\/"},"modified":"2012-03-20T22:41:40","modified_gmt":"2012-03-21T02:41:40","slug":"dealing-with-death-as-an-atheist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/2012\/01\/dealing-with-death-as-an-atheist.html","title":{"rendered":"Dealing with Death as an Atheist"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">I recently received the following email: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><span style=\"background-color: white;\">I have been reading your blog for a few months now and so much of what you write resonates with me. I didn\u2019t grow up Quiverful or quite as fundamentalist as you did, but still very conservative Christian. We went to a megachurch in the DC area, and I was very active in the youth group. Then I studied abroad. Seeing other cultures, especially visiting Muslim countries, I realized everyone believed in their religion just as devoutly and began to think that maybe every religion was a different version of the same basic thing. Eventually, that gave way to atheism, which is where I am today. I appreciate you and your blog so much \u2013 thank you for sharing as much as you do.<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><br>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><span style=\"background-color: white;\">The purpose of this email is really to reach out and ask you about something that has been troubling me for about 6 months now. I am having an existential crisis. How do you deal with death \u2013 mentally and emotionally? <\/span><\/span><br>\n<a name=\"more\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><span style=\"background-color: white;\">I ignored it for the most part, but one night I was gripped with the realization that everyone will die. Obviously I knew that before, but I had not really grasped it. I have two little children so I think that makes the feeling even more raw. Ever since that night, I think about it often and it is really frightening to me. I kind of have the sensation of being in a plane that is slowly crashing. It is so morbid! I\u2019ve talked to a few people about it, but no one really gets it \u2013 they either always thought nothing happened to us after death, or have always believed in heaven. How do you handle the reality of death \u2013 and the fact that it is permanent \u2013 after believing in the existence of God and heaven? How do you cope? I think this is something I just need to work through, and back in my Christian days, I had mentors and Bible study small groups that I could turn to with these kinds of things. <\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><span style=\"background-color: white;\">If you don\u2019t have time for this, I understand. You are just the person that came to mind when I wondered who I would be able to talk to about this.<\/span> <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"> \u2013Samantha<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><span style=\"background-color: white;\">Just today my husband and I were watching <a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2012\/01\/22\/a-little-classy-conversation-for-your-sunday-morning\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a video of prominent atheist authors<\/a> talking about their views, and ninety-five-year-old Diana Athill was asked how she handles the prospect of death as an atheist. Her response? \u201cI\u2019m never afraid to fall asleep, I don\u2019t know why I\u2019d be afraid of dying, it\u2019s really not any different.\u201d A<\/span><\/span><span style=\"background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">s an atheist, death is simply nonexistence. I wasn\u2019t bothered by not existing before I existed, so <\/span><span style=\"background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">why should I should I be afraid of not existing after I die? Honestly, it sounds rather peaceful. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">But Samantha makes an interesting point. Like me, she grew up with the expectation of eternal life. To go from believing that you will live forever in eternal bliss to the realization that you will cease to exist after you die can be rather jarring. One thing I realized early on is that wishing I could live forever doesn\u2019t make it so. It\u2019s like leading your whole life believing that you\u2019re some sort of lost princess or the heir to an obscure billionaire, and one day you\u2019ll be \u201cdiscovered\u201d and live a life of privilege and wealth. It doesn\u2019t matter how much you wish that were true, if it\u2019s not true it\u2019s not true. I see the idea of eternal life after death in the same way \u2013 it\u2019s mere wishful thinking, and while I understand its powerful appeal (who <em>wouldn\u2019t <\/em>want to live forever) that appeal does not make it real. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">How have I handled this whiplash understanding of what will happen to me after I die? One thing I do, as mentioned above, is to remind myself that wishful thinking doesn\u2019t make something true. Wishing you lived in a fairy tail doesn\u2019t make it reality. And wishing for something we don\u2019t have, and <em>can\u2019t <\/em>have, well, that just distracts from what we <em>do <\/em>have and promises to make us discontent and unhappy. I may wish I was a billionaire, but I\u2019m not, and spending my life wishing I was would make me overlook the economic security, prosperity, and happiness that I do have. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><span style=\"background-color: white;\">That all sounds rather harsh, though, doesn\u2019t it? Saying \u201ceternal life doesn\u2019t exist so stop wishing it did\u201d doesn\u2019t fix things. But there\u2019s a pleasant underside to this idea: I find that knowing I have but one life to live makes me want to live this life I have to the fullest. What is the point in holding grudges or focusing on small annoyances? If this is all I\u2019ve got, I want to enjoy it while I\u2019m here. This makes every moment I have with my husband, daughter, family, and friends especially precious and especially fraught with meaning. It makes me all the more likely to tell my husband and daughter that I love them, and to show them my love for them by overlooking the little things and focusing on the good. Weirdly, realizing this is all I have makes me a much more pleasant wife and mother than I might otherwise be, and makes me seek fulfillment in every little moment I have. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><span style=\"background-color: white;\">Another idea that comforts me is that of the \u201ccircle of life.\u201d After I die my body will break down and be assimilated back into the world to become something else. This world, with its trees, oceans, and animal life, will keep going after I\u2019m gone. It is what lasts even as our lives end. Sometimes I like to go out into nature, surrounded by trees and grass and birds, and just <em>feel <\/em>that. Compared to millions and billions of years and the diversity and ever changing nature of life, our individual lives are really very insignificant. But we aren\u2019t just individuals, we are part of something bigger \u2013 an ecosystem, a world, a universe \u2013 the circle of life. And to me, that feels empowering. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Samantha mentioned her two young children. I understand that. I would hate to think of losing Sally. A friend of mine from growing up recently had a miscarriage, and she wrote on facebook that she was comforted by the fact that she will someday see her baby in heaven. If I lost Sally, I wouldn\u2019t have that comfort. Sally would just be . . . gone. It would be the end. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: white; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">I deal with this in several ways. First, I remember that after death strikes there is one person not mourning, not feeling the pain of loss, not wondering how to go on with life, and that person is the one in the coffin. If I lost Sally, <em>I<\/em> would be the one who would be sad, not Sally. I might think of everything Sally never lived to do, but this wouldn\u2019t bother Sally. Sally would simply not exist, and would experience her nonexistence the way we do a deep dreamless sleep, just without ever waking up. Sally wouldn\u2019t mind being dead, because she wouldn\u2019t be. It would be <em>I <\/em>who would mind Sally being dead. If I were to lose Sally, I\u2019d like to think that that understanding \u2013 that Sally was suffering no pain or regret \u2013 would comfort me. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Next, I try to make Sally\u2019s every moment here on this earth pleasant and worthwhile, knowing that she, like I, has but one life. If I ever were to lose her, I wouldn\u2019t want anything to regret. This helps me to be especially kind to her, especially involved in playing with her, and especially grateful for every moment I have with her. After all, if I did ever lose Sally, all I would have is the memories of our life together, and I\u2019d like those memories to be pleasant and without regret. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">Finally, I remember what I said earlier about the circle of life. Death is simply a part of life, no matter how much we may wish it wasn\u2019t. People die, people are born, and life goes on. Sally is just a part of that larger cycle, and that is something I have to accept. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">But the fear we feel of death, or of losing someone we love, often isn\u2019t something that can be reasoned with. It\u2019s not necessarily a rational thing, it\u2019s a gut-level emotional thing. And so, Samantha, realize that what I\u2019ve said here is simply how I try to understand and rationalize death. It may help your \u201cexistential crisis,\u201d and it may not. Sharing my thoughts is all I can do. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">One thing that makes this sort of thing especially difficult for people like you and I is that, like I said before, we were raised to believe we would live forever. If we\u2019d never been told those things, accepting that life is limited and will end would almost certainly be easier. It\u2019s sort of like the moment a child realizes Santa isn\u2019t real, except that the idea of eternal life is a whole not bigger than Santa. But just as in that case, holding onto the idea of Santa won\u2019t do any good. We have to grow up, accept reality, and move on. But saying that is easier than doing it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">I\u2019d like to finish by offering some links with other atheists\u2019 points of view, and also by soliciting my atheist readers to offer their own suggestions and their own answers to Samantha\u2019s question<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YSUntJsooRw\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">How Atheists Deal with Death and Loss<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/gerardmcgarry.com\/blog\/atheists-approach-death\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">An Atheist\u2019s Approach to Death<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/freethoughtblogs.com\/greta\/2011\/08\/24\/grief-beyond-belief-how-atheists-are-dealing-with-death\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Grief Beyond Belief<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently received the following email: I have been reading your blog for a few months now and so much of what you write resonates with me. 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