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\"\"<\/a>A Guest Post by Aletha<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Originally posted on Yllom Mormon<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n

Created To Need A Help Meet<\/a>, pp. 75\u201477<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

We are still talking about Mr. Visionary. Today, though, we get to talk about Mrs. Visionary. \u00a0No, not a woman visionary, but the wife of Mr. Visionary. \u00a0These sections are all about getting the most help meet out of one\u2019s wife. I know you\u2019re as excited as I am.<\/p>\n

The Visionary\u2019s Help Meet<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

A radical visionary can be saved from dead ends and useless eruptions by his wise help meet\u2019s simple words of caution-that is, if he hasn\u2019t converted her to his radical worldview. \u00a0Visionaries are prone to see the world in black and white and can become critical of everyone around them. Some wives are influenced by their negative attitude and lose the ability to see clearly. He cultivates her into an amen corner for his attitude and actions when what he really needs is a smoke detector that sounds an alarm is likely to start a conflagration that will burn the entire family.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Oh lovely. \u00a0Once\u00a0again<\/a>, we see that wives are supposed to save the husband from themselves. \u00a0I will admit that sometimes it\u2019s good to have spouse that can diffuse a volatile situation. \u00a0But to such little self-restraint that you are obligated to use another person as a \u201csmoke detector\u201d is not healthy. \u00a0As a person that deals with bipolar, my husband is sometimes invaluable when he helps talk me down from something. \u00a0However, I can\u2019t imagine the toll it would take on him if he was always on-duty, as it were, to de-escalate me.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m not 100% sure what an \u201camen corner\u201d is, but to me, it sounds like a wife who is a sycophant. \u00a0Or, as I like to call them \u201cYes, dears\u201d. \u00a0If I remember Debi\u2019s book correctly, she says to never challenge or confront one\u2019s husband. I\u2019m having difficulty picturing a person that never challenges or confronts as anything but a sycophant. \u00a0Unless it\u2019s a passive-aggressive person.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m wondering what fabulous advice Michael is going to give us on how to change one\u2019s wife from the amen corner to being a smoke alarm.<\/p>\n

If a man gripes about his pastor, his boss, politics, the church, the Illuminati, or the Bilderberger long enough, he may encourage his wife to join him in his pessimism. Instead of controlling his fire, she fans it. An immature Visionary that believes in his own infallibility likes to smother his doubts with the blind affirmation of his wife. \u00a0He wants his help meet to do all the meeting; he already knows what he must do, come hell or high water.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It is true that a pessimistic partner can affect the attitude of the other. \u00a0I think the point should have been \u201cstop griping about everything\u201d, not \u201cyou may drag your woman down and she\u2019ll stop controlling your fire.\u201d \u00a0Which, I feel compelled to say again, is not the wife\u2019s responsibility. \u00a0So often in this book, it seems that Michael feels a woman\u2019s place is to either diffuse or be otherwise responsible for her husband\u2019s emotions, feelings, and actions. \u00a0If you are in a relationship, you are old enough and mature enough to manage your own emotions.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m giggling about the rest of the paragraph. \u00a0An immature Visionary that believes in his own infallibility? \u00a0I can\u2019t seem to think of any good example here. Maybe a Visionary that never admits to being wrong, or humble would consider himself infallible? \u00a0One other thing I can\u2019t get past. \u00a0Debi\u2019s book pretty blatantly says to always agree, smile, pretend, and brainwash yourself into believing your husband is always right. After all, he speaks for God. \u00a0Michael says he agrees with every word she wrote. How does he not get that Debi is pretending for him? From what I have read of theirs, Debi does all the meeting. She admits it in her section on\u00a0Command\u00a0<\/a>men. \u00a0I just don\u2019t get it.<\/p>\n

The loose cannon Visionary may chastise his wife if she shows any indication of thinking on her\u00a0own especially\u00a0if her conclusions differ from his predisposed position. \u00a0He is like a man awakened by a screaming smoke detector who gets up and turns it off so he can go back to sleep and continue his dream.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Aaaaand this would be a great place to say \u201cIt\u2019s OK if women think for themselves! They are people, too. \u00a0People with their own thoughts, hopes and dreams!\u201d \u00a0Does he say that? \u00a0Let\u2019s see!<\/p>\n

If you have identified yourself as a Visionary, you need a wife that feels free to express her concerns. \u00a0And you should listen carefully. \u00a0You can argue your point, but never diminish the value of her opinion or demean her for speaking up. \u00a0If you break off fellowship when she expresses concern, you will intimidate her into blind acquiescence, leaving you with no early warning system.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Oh, so close! \u00a0It\u2019s nice that he agrees a wife shouldn\u2019t be demeaned for speaking up. \u00a0I like that he encourages his readers to value their wife\u2019s opinion. \u00a0But, as usual, the reason for doing this is to benefit the man. \u00a0Not once in this book has he said anything about woman\u2019s needs (except her need to be needed). \u00a0He doesn\u2019t encourage men to take the advice of their wives because wives have additional knowledge, or need affirmation. \u00a0Nope. Men should listen to their wives because it makes their wives better help meets. Basically scratch her back so she scratches yours. \u00a0That\u2019s just selfish.<\/p>\n

Also, didn\u2019t Michael say a few sections back that men should basically pretend to take their wife\u2019s advice? \u201cPretend to be humble and thoughtful. Be patient and ask her to expound further on her concerns. Pause and look enlightened. Nod in appreciation for her wisdom and then modify your actions in some way based on her suggestion (page 52).\u201d \u00a0Is that what Michael thinks is \u201cvaluing\u201d a woman\u2019s opinion? Head\/wall.<\/p>\n

A wife who sits beside you in the front seat and hollers, \u201cCop!\u2014Radar!\u201d is an asset, but if you are so insecure as to speed up just because she warned you, you deserve the wreck that is coming, but she doesn\u2019t and neither do the kids.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

First, if a wife can sense police radar, I would love to see that. \u00a0How useful would that be? No illegal radar detector or scrambler (at least illegal here in Kansas). \u00a0Just someone that sits up front and hollers \u201cSlow down or they\u2019ll getcha!\u201d \u00a0Second, what about posted speed limit signs? \u00a0Wouldn\u2019t a person who has his family in the car be more likely to obey traffic rules? \u00a0Third, if your partner speeds up when you tell them to slow down, it\u2019s time for a long chat. Because there are issues in that relationship that need fixed. \u00a0Finally, telling someone they deserve what\u2019s coming to them isn\u2019t supportive. \u00a0If I had gone to my Mormon bishop and said that I was going to have premarital sex, and he said \u201cWell, I hope you get knocked up! That\u2019ll teach you!\u201d, I think there would be a whole host of people upset by that. But that attitude is what Michael is advocating. \u00a0\u201cTake my advice or I will hope for your downfall\u201d is petty and a bit creepy.<\/p>\n

Helping a Visionary<\/strong><\/p>\n

Not all Visionaries are given to wild judgements of people, but many are. If you happen to be one of those and if your wife has been converted to your negative point of view, and now is given to trashing people with her words, then, brother, you are a scuba diver with no depth meter or oxygen indicator. \u00a0Don\u2019t despair. That is why we wrote the book\u2014to help you help her help you.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Good gravy. \u00a0That last sentence is the most honest point of this book as of yet. They wrote this book to help men bring their women to the point where they are helping the man. \u00a0It\u2019s like he\u2019s saying that this whole book is about changing wives, not supporting wives. And that just makes me sad.<\/p>\n

The first step to recovery is to exercise wisdom in what you say and how you react. Express you\u2019re sorry at having been so negative and judgmental. \u00a0Tell her that you know you have allowed your image type to lead you in an unhealthy direction. \u00a0Then show compassion and tolerance of others. \u00a0You need to model the attitude you want your wife to assume. She became what she is to please you. In time she will, at your example, turn loose of the pessimism that is now rooted in her soul.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

O.o \u00a0First he tells men that their wives are their emotional alarm. Then he says \u201cJust change how you act!\u201d How is a man with no experience taking responsibility for his actions\/emotions supposed to model this \u201cgood behavior\u201d? \u00a0And the idea of \u201ctelling her your image type led you in an unhealthy direction\u201d is more scapegoating! \u00a0How many different ways can Michael tell men \u201cIt\u2019s not your fault, good sir!\u201d?<\/p>\n

I do agree that it is important to model good behavior. \u00a0Hopefully all that modeling will be kind of a \u201cfake it til you make it\u201d, and your attitude will change. But that\u2019s not really what Michael\u2019s advocating here. It seems to me, that he\u2019s saying \u201cJust act how you want her to. And she\u2019ll change. Because it\u2019s what makes you happy.\u201d \u00a0What if a man has a wife who is negative by nature? \u00a0What\u2019s to be done if no amount of modeling tolerance will change the wife? What then, Michael? \u00a0I know this is heresy, but women actually have personalities before and outside of their husbands. \u00a0Sometimes being negative is what they know.<\/p>\n

And while I\u2019m at it, what about the pessimism that\u2019s rooted in the man\u2019s soul? Or is that OK, because he\u2019s a Visionary? \u00a0If someone feels they have to pretend to be something they\u2019re not to \u201cfix\u201d someone else, who really has the negativity of soul??<\/p>\n

When you express concern for the inadequacies of your image type, letting her know that you have a blind spot that needs a sharp eye and sensitive heart to guard your flank, she will want to be your helper in that area and will rise to the occasion, no longer railing her criticisms but tactfully cautioning you instead.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Michael is half right here. While I don\u2019t disagree with this paragraph, I think he should have emphasized that this mutual sharp-eyeing goes both ways. Maybe sit down, talk with your wife about what she feels her inadequacies are. \u00a0Offer to help guard her flank. I think it\u2019s a true statement that when someone explains a need they have, their significant other usually will help them. \u00a0But to gender it in such a way, that the only needs are of the man makes me want to break something. \u00a0And another thing. A few chapters back, women weren\u2019t clear-headed (since they\u2019re sooo emotional with those crazy ladyhormonez). \u00a0Why would a man who honestly believes that, think he would need a woman\u2019s advice? It\u2019s like Michael\u2019s logic walks in circles and he just writes whatever is in his head at the time, regardless of whether it lines up with previous statements.<\/p>\n

In the recesses of her conscience she has her doubts about your outlandish side; it is unpleasant and ugly, so she will be relieved that you have \u201cseen the light\u201d. \u00a0The first time she expresses caution and you heed her admonition she will be transformed with the pleasure of being a true help meet and not just a \u201cYes Ma\u2019am\u201d. \u00a0She will learn to exercise restraint in her conversation concerning other people. She will become happier in the marriage, and you will be saved from grief. You need to continue by teaching, reminding, encouraging, and thanking your wife for being the kind of helper you need.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

OK. Call me crazy, but I\u2019m seeing a connection between how Michael says to train one\u2019s wife, and positive parenting techniques. \u00a0Modeling good behaviour, teaching, encouraging, and thanking for said good behaviour are all tactics used. \u00a0It\u2019s a bit disturbing that Michael sees women as children that need trained. Though I must say, considering how the Pearl\u2019s advocate training children, I\u2019m glad he is going with this technique. Which makes me wonder. If training one\u2019s wife this way works, why not try this approach with children? Surely they have less baggage and habits to overcome.<\/p>\n

Also, it will take more than one time to change a person\u2019s personality or habits. Most people regard the first instance change occurs in others as either a fluke or a trap. So saying simply \u201cone time will make her a better help meet\u201d is misleading.<\/p>\n

When your honey understands that what she says will readily affect you, she will mold to your needs. It is in a woman\u2019s makeup to want to bless her man. Ask her to pray for you. She needs to know that when you start raving about something or somebody that she has a right, even an obligation, to suggest that you might not be seeing the whole picture.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I fail to believe there are adults that have no clue that \u201cwords hurt\u201d. \u00a0I will admit, I\u2019m a negative, complaining woman. \u00a0I know that what I say affects my spouse, and other people. I gripe because I like it, and because I have a need to make people understand my point of view. \u00a0I\u2019m sure even a Visionary\u2019s wife knows that words carry weight. \u00a0And again, I\u2019m wondering why a man needs a woman to mold to his needs, but no admonition to mold to hers. What kind of marriages are these?<\/p>\n

Oh, and I\u2019m a bit confused as to the whole sequence of events. First, a husband must realize his negativity is hurting his wife\u2019s soul. Then he needs to model good behavoiur and help her be a better person. Finally, it\u2019s up to her to stop her husband from being negative? \u00a0If a man can change long enough to \u201ctrain\u201d his spouse to be more of what he needs, then surely he\u2019s capable of maintaining that change. \u00a0It really saddens me that Michael thinks women should be treated like children, but men are supposed to act that way.<\/p>\n

Any woman who sees her man in earnest will make an effort to curb her tongue and will work to develop discretion. Ask your wife for your sake to make Phillipians 4:8 her life verse: \u201cFinally, bretheren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ah, yes. The old \u201cHoney this means a lot to me so do it\u201d trick. I say trick because it seems that\u2019s what Michael\u2019s doing here. You want your wife to behave X way, so you play mindgame Z. \u00a0And it might be just me, but if my husband told me he thinks a specific verse of scripture should be my \u201clife verse\u201d, I would be pretty upset.<\/p>\n

I will grant that the verse is a lovely ideal of perfection. \u00a0However, sometimes it\u2019s OK not to see the rose-coloured glass half full. \u00a0It\u2019s OK to stress and be sad. It\u2019s called being human. This fascination fundamentalists (Mormons included) seem to have with pasting a fake smile over everything remotely negative is a bit disturbing.<\/p>\n

Don\u2019t wait on your wife to respond perfectly before counting your marriage a success. Most likely, neither of you will ever be 100% perfect spouses. She will continue to have some faults and will occasionally say things in a way that could cause you offense. That is where grace and wisdom bridge the gap. Learn to be generous of spirit and patient in your reaction.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Stop the cows. Did Michael just say neither man nor woman will every be a perfect spouse? \u00a0That\u2019s a really good point. NOBODY IS PERFECT. It\u2019s a fact of life. If you believe Christians, there was only one perfect person ever on this planet, and people killed him for it.<\/p>\n

And then Michael takes a valid point and murders it. \u00a0Apparently it\u2019s only the woman who will still have faults and say stupid things. And you, mighty man, only have to be wise and generous of spirit, so you can forgive the little woman her many, many faults.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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