{"id":194,"date":"2011-12-21T15:49:00","date_gmt":"2011-12-21T19:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/2011\/12\/youre-a-sinner-youre-a-sinner-youre-a-sinner\/"},"modified":"2012-08-07T16:38:29","modified_gmt":"2012-08-07T20:38:29","slug":"youre-a-sinner-youre-a-sinner-youre-a-sinner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/2011\/12\/youre-a-sinner-youre-a-sinner-youre-a-sinner.html","title":{"rendered":"You’re a sinner, you’re a sinner, you’re a SINNER!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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I just read this article<\/a> about how fundamentalist Christian boarding schools are luring in Chinese exchange students with promises of sound economics and repaying them with religious indoctrination. This quote from one such student struck me:<\/div>\n

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\u201cBefore, what I believed, what Chinese people believe, is that people are innately good,\u201d she said. \u201cI realized that I was sinful. I was lying, not loving. Those are as bad as killing someone. There\u2019s no difference between me and a murderer.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Warning: You are about to embark on a rant. It may or may not be coherent or orderly. And it certainly won\u2019t be \u201cnice.\u201d <\/span>
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\nI\u2019ve said this before: Christianity offers a solution to a self-created problem<\/a>. Evangelical or fundamentalist Christianity is only good news once you\u2019re convinced that you are no better than a murderer and deserve to die and suffer in hell. Only then <\/em>can Christianity offer its good news. <\/span><\/div>\n

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What\u2019s more, they know this. A common fundamentalist and evangelical proselytizing method is called \u201cThe Romans Road<\/a>.\u201d Here are the first three steps: <\/span><\/div>\n

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Romans 3:23\u00a0 \u201cFor all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n
We all have sin in our hearts. We all were born with sin. <\/span><\/div>\n
We were born under the power of sin\u2019s control.<\/span><\/div>\n
\u2013 Admit that you are a sinner.<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n

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Romans 6:23a\u00a0 \u201c\u2026The wages of sin is death\u2026\u201d <\/span><\/div>\n
Sin has an ending. \u00a0It results in death. <\/span> We all face physical death, which is a result of sin.\u00a0 But a worse death is spiritual death that alienates us from God, and will last for all eternity. \u00a0The Bible teaches that there is a place called the Lake of Fire where lost people will be in torment forever.\u00a0\u00a0 It is the place where people who are spiritually dead will remain.<\/span><\/div>\n
\u2013 Understand that you deserve death for your sin.<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n

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Romans 6:23b\u00a0 \u201c\u2026But the gift of God is eternal <\/span><\/div>\n
life through Jesus Christ our Lord.\u201d <\/span><\/div>\n
Salvation is a free gift from God to you! <\/span>You<\/span> can\u2019t <\/span><\/div>\n
earn this gift, but you must reach out and receive it.<\/span><\/div>\n
\u2013 Ask God to forgive you and save you.<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n
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<\/em>Do you see what\u2019s going on here? Step one, you\u2019re a sinner. Step two, you deserve death. Step three, God can save you. The first step is always to convince the potential convert that he or she is a sinner and deserves to die. <\/em><\/span><\/div>\n

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This is what I grew up with. I was taught that the first step is understanding that you\u2019re a sinner, and that in bringing in converts your first step was convincing them of that as well. I was convinced that I was worthless, sinful, and completely evil. I was convinced that my only worth came from being \u201csaved\u201d from the punishment I \u201cdeserved.\u201d It was only in God, only in Jesus, that I had any merit or value. But attaining this new sense of worth meant viewing myself as completely worthless outside of it. And that is what the teachers at the Christian school attended by the Chinese girl quoted at the beginning of this post set out to convince her of as well. <\/span>Now if you\u2019re a Christian, or specifically a conservative Christian, there doesn\u2019t appear to be anything wrong with this. After all, conservative Christians believe that all people are sinners and therefore honestly, truly, and justly deserve to spend eternity being tortured in hell. But here\u2019s how ridiculous this idea sounds to an atheist<\/a>: <\/span><\/span>\n<\/div>\n

Imagine you are strolling down the sidewalk and a man excitedly calls you over to his front porch to share some \u201cgreat news,\u201d<\/strong> <\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The man\u2019s got a gruesome torture chamber in his basement, Barker said, but you don\u2019t have to go down there. Instead, you can come over, hug the man\u2019s son, say you love him and you can all move in together in the attic and tell them how great they are forever.<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Or to but it another way: \u201cYou\u2019re a sinner, just as bad as a murderer or a child rapist. God has declared that you deserve to be tortured for eternity. But guess what? He\u2019s found a way so that he doesn\u2019t have to send you to hell to be tortured for eternity! If you just make your life his, and do whatever he wants, you can instead go to heaven and spend eternity praising him! Isn\u2019t that great?\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n

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Um. No. Just no. It\u2019s like telling your three-year-old that because she\u2019s been bad, you need whip her and then shut her up in a dark closet for three days, and then expecting her to be grateful when you decide that you won\u2019t do it after all. <\/span><\/div>\n

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Some will justify it by saying that God made everyone, so he can do what he wants with us. But I\u2019m sorry, I\u2019m not big on humans being owned. We call that slavery, and we don\u2019t smile on that. Besides, saying that God can do what he wants with us because he made us is removing him from any ethical restraint. Why? Because God defines <\/em>what is just. If he says torturing people for eternity because they weren\u2019t his standard of perfect is just, then it\u2019s just. But the thing is, that\u2019s complete bullshit. We humans have done a much better job of coming up with ethics and morality on our own. <\/em>We <\/em>outlawed slavery, not God. We <\/em>condemned genocide, not God. We <\/em>have outlawed, not God. We <\/em>condemn rape, not God. You\u2019d think if the Bible was supposed to be the greatest book of morality and ethics, it would have prohibited these things. You\u2019d think the ten commandments would perhaps address them. But no. The Ten Commandments are more interested in jealously commanding people to worship God or else to even touch on issues like child abuse or rape. So personally, I\u2019m happy to leave God completely out of morality and ethics, and I actually think the two are way better off without him.<\/span>\n

Anyway, that\u2019s the rabbit trail reading that article, and especially that one passage, took me down. Sometimes, living in a world where I see people as valuable and full of potential, it\u2019s painful to take this walk back to the past and remember what I used to believe. In some ways, it\u2019s like Alice fallen down the rabbit hole \u2013 and remembering that that is where she used to live. <\/span><\/p>\n

Note: Moderate or liberal Christians generally follow different proselytizing techniques. Most often they believe that they should just lead their lives and be an example for others \u2013 that if someone notices they are especially joyful or especially fulfilled, that someone will ask questions. Moderate and liberal Christians generally don\u2019t believe that non-Christians will not be automatically tortured for eternity. However, their proselytizing tactics are rendered rather invisible compared to those of more conservative Christians and without the ability to threaten hellfire and brimstone they have a decreased number of tools to use to convince a non-Christian person that he or she should become Christian. The plus side, though, is the focus on the positive (the offer of community) rather than on the negative (the threat of torture).<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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