I am feeling stuck in this hearing and we have got to get out. Peter has done some things right and some things wrong, but nothing really egregious. Mostly it has been simply boring. And so, in the interests of getting the heck out of this hearing, I\u2019m going to\u00a0see if I\u00a0can make it through the rest of\u00a0it in this segment.<\/p>\n
As you may remember, Judge Romer just called a fifteen minute recess. Farris tells us that Gwen, her parents, and Peter left the courtroom silently, glaring at Donna and Gail. During the recess Dr. Schram arrived. She\u2019s the psychologist Peter hired, remember, and her testimony will likely directly contradict that of Dr. McGuire, the psychologist selected by CPS. The court reconvened at eleven (for anyone who is still keeping time) and Peter called Dr. Schram to the witness stand.<\/p>\n
\u201cPlease state your name for the record.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cI\u2019m Jean Schram.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cAnd your occupation?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cI\u2019m a clinical psychologist.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cWhere and when did you get your various college degrees?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cI received both my bachelor\u2019s and Ph.D. in psychology from Washington State University. The bachelor\u2019s was in 1965. The Ph.D. was in 1987. I was a mom in between. I went back to school after my youngest graduated from high school.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
No, I\u2019m sorry, but Dr. Schram would not say that. Besides, speaking as an academic, it\u2019s the Ph.D. that matters here. No one cares what the bachelor\u2019s was in or where or when. If Dr. Schram had a master\u2019s degree from another university or a second Ph.D. in another area that would be relevant, but her bachelor\u2019s degree is not. If her bachelor\u2019s was in something totally different that gave her another perspective it might be relevant, but even that is iffy, as a bachelor\u2019s degree doesn\u2019t generally make one an expert in a field. And while we\u2019re at it, it would be bizarre to refer to someone\u2019s bachelor\u2019s and Ph.D. as \u201cyour various college degrees.\u201d That\u2019s not how it works.<\/p>\n
This whole thing was just a setup to make sure Judge Romer knows that Dr. Schram was a good wife and mother who quit work to raise her children and only went back to school once the youngest had left home. Why it\u2019s important for Judge Romer to know that I have no idea, because in real life it wouldn\u2019t be, but then, we\u2019re not in real life, we\u2019re in Farris-land\u2014not<\/em> to be confused with fairyland. They\u2019re just as imaginary, but one is much more pleasant than the other (well, depending on whether one goes in for the darker medieval fairy myths, I suppose).<\/p>\nDr. Schram says she doesn\u2019t have an area of specialization, but tends to do work on \u201cfamily issues, marital problems, or children.\u201d It\u2019s a bit odd to me that Peter didn\u2019t choose a child psychologist for this. Anyway, Dr. Schram explains that she interviewed Gwen and Casey both separately and together. She says her graduate intern gave\u00a0Casey and Gwen routine tests while the other was being interviewed. Peter asks the graduate intern\u2019s qualifications, we we learn that she just received her Ph.D. from WSU.<\/p>\n
Peter resumed his pacing. \u201cDr. Schram, what was your assessment of Gwen and Casey Landis based upon your interview and tests?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cObjection,\u201d Willet said. \u201cI don\u2019t think she can testify based on tests she did not perform herself. These exams are not like simply taking a temperature where a nurse can report a simple fact to a doctor. Psychological tests are much more complex, and the person doing the scoring must observe the person being tested.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cOverruled,\u201d the judge said before Peter could say a word. \u201cI have psychologists in here all the time looking at tests other doctors have performed, and they comment and interpret based on these tests. I am sure your Dr. McGuire would feel quite competent to interpret the results given by Dr. Schram here. Overruled.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
I\u2019m honestly\u00a0not sure what\u2019s going on here except that that made Gail look really incompetent.<\/p>\n
Anyway, Dr. Schram reports the following:<\/p>\n
\u201cMy findings were that the relationship between Gwen and her daughter is warm, loving, and quite positive. I found no area of abnormalities between them. \u201d<\/p>\n
. . .<\/p>\n
\u201cGwen has some understandable feelings of bitterness and anger toward her ex-husband, but nothing out of the ordinary. And she is certainly quite upset with this whole process, especially the strip search and removal of her daughter. But, as a mother, I certainly think this is quite understandable and within normal limits one would expect.\u201d<\/p>\n
. . .<\/p>\n
\u201cCasey is a very fearful little girl right now. Very fearful. It is outside the normal ranges for a child her age. She\u2019s going to need some counseling.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
Two quick notes about language. I have to say, I love these posts in part because of the interaction with commenters each week. I have readers who are lawyers and social workers or otherwise have exposure to these fields, as well as psychology, and they always have interesting things to say. Anyway, last week my readers noted that \u201cbitterness\u201d is not a term a psychologist would likely use\u2014Dr. McGuire used it last week too, remember\u2014and that \u201cstrip search\u201d is not a\u00a0term social services uses either. Instead, they refer to their physical examinations as\u00a0medical examinations, and they tend to be conducted by medical professionals. I thought I\u2019d mention it because these are two ways Farris is using specific language to shape perceptions.<\/p>\n
Peter stopped pacing and resumed his second favorite position\u2014standing behind his chair, gripping the back. \u201cDr. Schram, were you able to ascertain the cause of the fear?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cYes, I was. In my opinion her fear reactions were brought on\u2014\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cObjection,\u201d Willet called out. \u201cMr. Barron needs to lay a proper foundation.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cSustained. Turn-about is fair play, Mr. Barron. You made the same objection with Dr. McGuire.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cPeter smiled and bowed his head. \u201cFair enough.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
I don\u2019t want to bore you, so I\u2019ll just tell you that Dr. Schram confirms that she applied the \u201creasonable medical probability\u201d standard, meaning, as she explains, that the vast majority of professionals in her field would come to the same conclusions with the same data.\u00a0She says the data she relied on included the interviews and the tests, but especially the interviews, and especially one specific piece of data.<\/p>\n
Dr. Schram reached into a file folder and pulled out a picture\u2014a picture drawn by a child with crayons. \u201cThis picture was drawn by Casey in the draw-a-person test. My assistant directed her to draw a picture of some people and this is what she drew.\u201d<\/p>\n
. . .<\/p>\n
\u201cIt shows two women\u2014one can tell they are women because they are wearing dresses\u2014with quite scary-looking faces or heads. They are standing by what appears to be a bed.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cDid you ask Casey any questions about this picture?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cYes, I did. My assistant brought it to me after the testing, and during our interview time I asked Casey to tell me about the picture.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cWhat did she say?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cShe said it was the mean ladies in her room.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
Peter asks about the cause of this fear, and Dr. Schram says:<\/p>\n
\u201cI believe it is a reaction brought on by the forced strip search by the two CPS workers and the subsequent removal from her home.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
Peter notes that Dr. McGuire testified that he believed Casey\u2019s fear was caused \u201cby her mother\u2019s excessive spanking\u201d and asks how that comports with her findings. Dr. Schram says it did not fit with her observations at all, \u201cparticularly when I observed the two of them together.\u201d<\/p>\n
And here is where I wonder why Dr. Schram viewed the two together but Dr. McGuire did not. It seems to me that if I were a judge and wanted to hear the opinions of two different psychologists, I would want them to conduct similar interviews and tests. After all, you want to be able to compare apples to apples, not oranges to apples. Does the court order the basic examinations to be conducted, or is that in the hands of the professionals contracted to perform the examinations? And if it\u2019s the latter, why didn\u2019t Dr. McGuire ask to see the two of them together? After all, the fact that Dr. Schram says Gwen and Casey\u00a0interacted perfectly naturally is going to look pretty strong when held against the fact that Dr. McGuire never actually saw them interact at all. Wouldn\u2019t either he or CPS have thought of that?<\/p>\n
I understand that Dr. McGuire and CPS are supposed to be the bad guys here, and on some level I don\u2019t disagree at all. Gwen has shown utterly no regard\u00a0for children, describing Casey as a \u201clittle rat\u201d and forcibly\u00a0stripping her during her investigation, even as she screamed. Dr. McGuire took a bribe, and Blackburn, the CPS director, offered said bribe. These are not good people. Of course, Peter is not the good, ethical lawyer he thinks himself\u2014he himself engaged in a bit of blackmail earlier, if you remember\u2014and Gwen is nowhere near the stable, gentle mother Farris wants us to think her. The only one who appears to be innocent of all of this is Gail\u2014she is using falsified\u00a0evidence to argue her case but\u00a0doesn\u2019t know it\u2019s falsified.\u00a0I would say Romer was innocent of all this too, if it weren\u2019t for his willingness to engage in a \u201cgood old boys\u201d dynamic. This lack of someone to root for is maddening.<\/p>\n
But you know is even more maddening? The fact that even the people who are supposed to be the bad guys are mind-numbingly incompetent. McGuire was worried last week that he\u2019d included some mention of the bribe he took in his report, but why would he write something like that down? And why didn\u2019t Donna even think to contact Gordon? If she really wants to punish Gwen for yelling at her she\u2019d be trying to find a way to place Casey with Gordon. And here, Dr. McGuire failed to do tests that Dr. Schram did and is going to look stupid and have his testimony one-upped because of it. And it\u2019s going to get worse.<\/p>\n
Anyway, back to the hearing. Peter says he\u2019s finished with his questions and Gail stands to examine Dr. Schram in turn.<\/p>\n
\u201cDr. Schram, do you know Dr. McGuire?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cYes, I know him, mainly through his professional reputation, but we met a few times.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cHe testified this morning he has been in practice for seventeen years. And you testified that you have been in practice for only seven years, is that correct?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cYes, it is correct.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cAnd you testified that you were a \u2018stay-at-home mom\u2019 between your two college degrees, did you not?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cYes, those were the most important years of my life.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cAt one point in your testimony, you said\u2014and I think I am quoting you almost word for word\u2014that as a mother you can understand the reaction of anger experienced by Gwen Landis in reaction to the removal of her daughter. Do you remember that testimony?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cYes, I do,\u201d she replied with confidence.<\/p>\n
\u201cDr. Schram, you are called as an expert witness. A psychologist. There is no category of expert witness called \u2018experienced mother.\u2019 Isn\u2019t it a fact that your entire opinion is colored with your mothering experience? You are not giving us a straightforward professional opinion, are you? Aren\u2019t your opinions nothing more than home-spun theories?\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
Peter objects, but the Judge allows the question. Dr. Schram says \u201ca person who practices in this profession in a way that is totally separated from normal human experience has only a textbook understanding of philosophy\u201d and Gail responds by asking the judge to strike the testimony on the basis that Dr. Schram was mixing her profession with human experience. The judge says he notes her objection but will allow the testimony to stand.<\/p>\n
And this<\/em> would be why Dr. Schram mentioned in her introduction that she was a mother between completing her bachelor\u2019s degree and her Ph.D.\u00a0Farris wanted to give Gail an opening to jump in and deride stay-at-home mothers. Gail is probably right that Dr. Schram shouldn\u2019t have said \u201cas a mother\u201d earlier and should instead have remained in the realm of professional psychological expertise\u2014after all, psychology would inform one regarding how a parent would react when separated from their child\u2014but I think Gail\u2019s being more than a little bit unfair here, especially given that Dr. McGuire admitted earlier that his parenting and his study of psychology were\u00a0in some way interrelated.<\/p>\nI told you I was going to try to finish the hearing, and I was! But look at the time! I have other things I have to do this morning and I know you want this installment while it is still, you know, morning, so this is what you get, such as it is. Next week we\u2019ll look at brief testimony given by Gordon, some brief re-examination of Donna (in response to Rita\u2019s testimony), and then, at long last, Judge Romer\u2019s ruling.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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