{"id":305,"date":"2011-08-09T20:04:00","date_gmt":"2011-08-09T20:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/2011\/08\/a-trust-problem\/"},"modified":"2012-03-20T21:44:38","modified_gmt":"2012-03-21T01:44:38","slug":"a-trust-problem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/2011\/08\/a-trust-problem.html","title":{"rendered":"A Trust Problem"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style='background-color: transparent; font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif;'><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">My parents have a trust problem. I\u2019ve said <a href=\"http:\/\/lovejoyfeminism.blogspot.com\/2011\/07\/whose-choice.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">elsewhere<\/a> that the parents of the Christian Patriarchy movement seem to be unable to trust their adult daughters. In fact, as <a href=\"http:\/\/lovejoyfeminism.blogspot.com\/2011\/07\/daughters-have-brains.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">I\u2019ve already pointed out<\/a>, they frequently don\u2019t even trust their adult daughters to be able to think for themselves. Depending on the family, <a href=\"http:\/\/lovejoyfeminism.blogspot.com\/2011\/06\/sons-of-patriarchy.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">sons may face the same lack of trust as well<\/a>. But I\u2019ve come to the conclusion that it\u2019s not just their children that the parents of the Christian Patriarchy movement can\u2019t trust, they also can\u2019t trust God. <\/span> <a name=\"more\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><span style=\"font-size: small;\"> <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">The belief that there is an all powerful, all knowing, all loving God gives some Christians an enormous sense of peace. No matter what happens to their children or loved ones or in the world around them, they find peace and contentment in their belief that God is in charge and will work all things together for good. They exude love and peace to everyone around them. You see, they <\/span><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">trust <\/span><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">God. They believe that he, not they, is in charge, and that he, not they, knows what is best for his children. <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">For some reason, my parents, like other parents of the Christian Patriarchy movement, seem unable to trust God in this way. When their children make decisions they disagree with, they for some reason cannot just put their children in the hands of the God they so deeply believe in. Rather than exuding peace they exude anxiety, anger, and anguish. Rather than focusing on loving their children and praying for God to guide them, they seek to manipulate and control them. I\u2019ve been puzzling over the reason for this. <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">The best I can figure is that my parents and other parents of the Christian Patriarchy movement believe that God has given them a formula for raising perfect \u201cgodly\u201d children. If they follow the rules, they can\u2019t go wrong. It\u2019s easy to accuse parents like these of following \u201cman made rules\u201d instead of God, but I would point out that they truly believe that it is God who gave them these rules. Furthermore, they believe that it is God who has promised that if they follow these rules the result will be perfect \u201cgodly\u201d children. And they have a verse to prove it: <\/span>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Proverbs 22: 6 \u2013 Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">At face value, then, the Bible appears to promise parents that if they train up their children correctly, their children will not fail them. There are more verses too. <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Proverbs 22:15 \u2013 Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of correction will drive it far from him. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Proverbs 23:13-14 \u2013 Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you beat him with a rod, he will not die. You shall beat him with a rod, and deliver his soul from hell. <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Proverbs 29:15 \u2013 The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself brings shame to his mother. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Now clearly, a straightforward reading does not use any form of textual or Biblical analysis. I\u2019m not necessarily trying to say that the Bible <\/span><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">does <\/span><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">promise that children who are trained properly will turn into perfectly \u201cgodly\u201d adults. I\u2019m simply explaining that you can understand why some people might come to such a conclusion and that they have plenty of proof texts. <\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"background-color: transparent;\"><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">But of course, my parents and others like them didn\u2019t come to these conclusions on their own. Rather, they were seduced by the promises of godly children made by Vision Forum, No Greater Joy, Institute for Biblical Life Principles, and others like them. These leaders explain to devout Christian families across the country that if they will only follow a specific child rearing formula, they will end up with perfect godly children. Yet I would point out that my parents and others like them don\u2019t just believe these teachings because are told them by organizations like these, but also because they believe that these teachigns line up with what they read in the Bible and with the urgings of the Holy Spirit. <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Of all the literature my parents read, I think that No Greater Joy and Vision Forum probably had the most influence. Both of these organizations promise parents godly children if they will only follow the guidelines they say are laid out in the Bible. Here is an excerpt from No Greater Joy\u2019s webpage: <\/span>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"background-color: white; color: #0d0d0d; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">As goes the child so goes the future adult\u2014 and the future parent. At every moment, parents holding little children are holding the future. Parenting, the most important and demanding job in the world comes on us by default. Ready or not, prepared or ill equipped, all parents produce fruit that lasts throughout eternity. It is like stopping everyone that walks down the street and seating them at a piano to play for five minutes. The melody or the dissonance goes on and on from one generation to the next unless someone takes the time to break the cycle and learn the skill of parenting.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<div style=\"margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-right: 15pt; margin-top: 0pt;\" dir=\"ltr\"><span style=\"background-color: white; color: #0d0d0d; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Through materials they write and record, the Pearls are training parents to break the bad habits passed down from former generations and to recognize and emulate the wisdom of those who have gone before. The Bible and common sense are the foundations for effective parenting.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Did you catch that? If you parent correctly, you will produce \u201cfruit that lasts throughout eternity.\u201d You can have perfect children. Vision Forum promises the same on their webpage: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"background-color: white; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">The defining crisis of our age is the systematic annihilation of the Biblical family. The family was the first institution created by God and blessed by Christ during His earthly ministry. It is God\u2019s primary vehicle for communicating covenant promises to the next generation. It is the basic agency of dominion on earth. Within the context of the family, the father is the God-ordained vision communicator.<\/span> <span style=\"background-color: white; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Minimize the father and the family will perish. Minimize the family and you have neutralized the church. The sad truth is that broken and weak families are the norm even within the most conservative and doctrinally orthodox church assemblies. This is in large part due to the death of Biblical patriarchy with its emphasis on father-directed vision, leadership, and self-sacrifice.<\/span> <span style=\"background-color: white; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">The tragedy gets worse. Though many of us would firmly stand for the proposition that good doctrine leads to sound living, the fact is that rebellious children, broken homes, and vision-less fathers are every bit as present in the Reformed community as the Dispensational. \u2026 The mission of The Vision Forum is to address this problem. \u2026 At the heart of the message we share is a commitment to see the wedding of orthodoxy and orthopraxy among the people of God. Sound doctrine and sound living must come together. We can preach the covenant and the sovereignty of God until we are blue in the face, but if we allow our children to be educated by Canaanites, if we encourage our daughters to pursue a careerist philosophy, if we fail to make our homes economically vital, hospitable centers for love and learning, we are hypocrites. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div style=\"background-color: transparent;\"><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">Got that? If you live what you preach, you can avoid the broken homes and rebellious children. If you follow the right formula, you will \u201ccommunicate covenant promises to the next generation.\u201d <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">It\u2019s really no wonder my parents freaked out when I questioned their beliefs. That wasn\u2019t supposed to happen. That wasn\u2019t part of the game plan. That wasn\u2019t what they had been promised, both by No Greater Joy and Vision Forum and ultimately, they believed, by God. They had been promised a perfect godly family if you only did just so, and they had done just so. I cracked their world wide open and shattered the illusion of the perfect godly family. <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">So did my parents question the formulas? No. Instead, they blamed the world and they blamed me. I had been lead astray by the world and its empty promises, they said, and had stopped listening to God in order to follow my own pleasures. They believe they did everything right, that I know that their beliefs are true and know what God requires of me, but that I have run off after the world with my fingers in my ears. <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">And now we get to the trust problem. My parents trusted that God would fulfill his promise of a perfect godly family if they only followed his guidelines as taught by No Greater Joy and Vision Forum. Somehow, though, they can\u2019t seem to trust him with their children when their formulas go wrong. Instead, they have to fight tooth and nail to bring their erring children back to \u201cthe truth.\u201d I think this may be born out of confusion as much as anything else. Their system didn\u2019t work. Everything they built their lives around failed. That wasn\u2019t supposed to happen. <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\"> <\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">In some sense, though, the actions of my parents and others like them make sense. After all, my parents aren\u2019t used to trusting their children to God. Rather, they\u2019re used to trusting that God has promised that if they raise their children just so their children will turn out to be just right. This idea puts my parents at the center, not God. <\/span><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">They<\/span><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\"> are responsible for how their children turn out, not<\/span><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\"> God<\/span><span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">. And now that we\u2019re grown, that habit may be difficult to kick. That, I think, is the heart of the problem. And that is why I say that my parents have a trust problem. <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\"> <\/span> <span style=\"background-color: transparent; color: black; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;\">These formulas are like crack \u2013 they\u2019re extremely addictive and can destroy your life. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: small;\"> <\/span><\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My parents have a trust problem. I\u2019ve said elsewhere that the parents of the Christian Patriarchy movement seem to be unable to trust their adult daughters. In fact, as I\u2019ve already pointed out, they frequently don\u2019t even trust their adult daughters to be able to think for themselves. 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