{"id":41092,"date":"2019-04-03T05:00:40","date_gmt":"2019-04-03T09:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/?p=41092"},"modified":"2019-04-02T13:11:42","modified_gmt":"2019-04-02T17:11:42","slug":"belief-that-premarital-sex-is-harmful-is-a-self-fulfilling-prophesy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/lovejoyfeminism\/2019\/04\/belief-that-premarital-sex-is-harmful-is-a-self-fulfilling-prophesy.html","title":{"rendered":"Belief that Premarital Sex Is Harmful Is a Self-Fulfilling Prophesy"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Blogger Lori Alexander recently posted an article titled <a href=\"https:\/\/thetransformedwife.com\/premarital-sex-is-so-detrimental-to-marriage\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Premarital Sex is SO Detrimental to Marriage<\/a>. I was curious to see how she backed this claim up. Not very effectively, as it turns out.<\/p>\n<p>Lori begins her post as follows:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>One man posted this question on his Facebook wall: \u201cShould a wife have sex with her husband even when she is not in the mood?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I answered, \u201cYes, because a wife who loves the Lord and His ways certainly will, since she is not led by her moods or emotions but by the perfect Word of God.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is unsurprising, for Lori. Notice how upside down things become in this exchange, though:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A woman responded to me, \u201cLori Alexander, really? You do realize that a woman is a human being in her own right and her body hers to do with as she wishes. No one has the right to dictate what a woman does with her body. You touch me without my permission and you will lose your teeth. I\u2019m nobody\u2019s possession or toy. I decide what happens to my body. If I\u2019m not in the mood, you don\u2019t get to touch me, period. You weak woman.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Actually, it\u2019s a strong woman who isn\u2019t being led by her moods and emotions but instead is living in obedience to God\u2019s command to not deprive her husband sexually. This takes strength whereas doing as you please takes no strength at all.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Consider how backward this is. Lori argues that putting up with sex you don\u2019t want takes strength. Therefore, she claims, a woman who always submits to her husband sexually and lets him do what he wants with her body whether or not she wants it is the true \u201cstrong woman.\u201d But this logic, though, abused women are the strongest women of all. By this logic, trafficked women are \u201cstrong.\u201d This is bizarro land.<\/p>\n<p>We still haven\u2019t gotten to the promised subject of Lori\u2019s post, though. Recall that her headline was\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/thetransformedwife.com\/premarital-sex-is-so-detrimental-to-marriage\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Premarital Sex is SO Detrimental to Marriage<\/a>. Let\u2019s keep going to find her evidence for this titular claim:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Why do women act so profoundly disgusted at the thought of giving themselves freely to their husbands sexually even if they\u2019re not in the mood? One woman gave a great reason and is a good warning to all unmarried, young women.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy thought is that most, if not all, women with this woman\u2019s mindset comes from a background of regular premarital sex, where they have been used by men for sex (which in my mind includes all sexual activity outside of marriage). This repeated \u2018use\u2019 of a woman (the sex she gives freely, of course) hardens her heart against men. She feels she\u2019s \u2018putting herself out there\u2019 in relationship after relationship, only to have it end one way or another. This creates a huge bitterness in her heart. In her mind, she may not be able to control the relationship, but she can control her body and who does what with it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What in the world? This is a good reminder that the way I view sex is completely at odds with the way Lori and her followers view it, if nothing else. You can only classify all sexual activity outside of marriage as de facto involving women being \u201cused by men for sex\u201d if you see sex as something women give and men take, and not as something that is mutually enjoyable, or mutually desired. In the real world (which happens to be where I live), <em>women want sex too<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Lori\u2019s friend\u2019s argument, then, is that women who have sex outside of marriage become so accustomed to being used by men for sex that, once married, they decides they will no longer be used for sex, and assert their right to say <em>no<\/em>. There is a certain logic to this. There <em>are<\/em> women who have relationships with men who treat them as objects, and if these women later learn to stand up for themselves and assure their rights, <em>more power to them.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>You know what\u2019s odd, though? Lori\u2019s friend isn\u2019t actually against women being used by men for sex. In fact, she thinks women <em>should<\/em> be used by men for sex\u2014within marriage. She takes issue not with women being used by men for sex, but rather with women who are used by men for sex in relationships that don\u2019t work out, and subsequently respond to this by deciding that\u00a0<em>they no longer want to be used by men for sex<\/em>. Misplaced priorities much?<\/p>\n<p>Lori\u2019s friend continues as follows:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cAnd certainly, if you are not following the word of God and what the Bible says about \u2018the two becoming one flesh,\u2019 the idea of giving yourself freely to your husband even when you\u2019re \u2018not in the mood\u2019 sounds incredibly outlandish and almost like sexual slavery.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You don\u2019t say.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI can tell you from personal experience of becoming sexually active at an embarrassingly young age, that even though I know exactly what the Bible says and agree with it, I struggle DEEPLY with submitting to my husband sexually. Having a history of premarital sex is SO DETRIMENTAL to a marriage. The baggage of shame, hurt, and self-disgust is so hard to shake. I know the Lord has forgiven my past, but I am personally still so disgusted by it. It is very difficult to give myself freely to my husband.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Wait wait. I have questions.<\/p>\n<p>I am not an expert on sexuality, or a sex counselor. But in my experience, shame surrounding sex comes most commonly from one of two things. First, individuals who have sexual abuse in their past can struggle with feelings of shame and disgust surrounding sex. Second, though, individuals who have had consensual premarital, <em>but who believe that premarital sex is sin,<\/em> can <em>also<\/em>\u00a0struggle with feelings of shame and disgust surrounding sex.<\/p>\n<p>Lori\u2019s friend does not clarify which of the above groups she is in. Does she feel shame and disgust around sex because she was abused, perhaps as a child, or perhaps by an abusive boyfriend who didn\u2019t listen to her boundaries? Or were her \u201cembarrassingly young\u201d sexual encounters consensual, resulting in feelings of shame and disgust when combined with her current (or longstanding) belief that premarital sex is wrong, sinful, and even perverted?<\/p>\n<p>It doesn\u2019t actually matter where Lori\u2019s friend falls, of course. What matters is that she needs <em>help<\/em> with her sexual baggage, not\u00a0<i>this.\u00a0<\/i>Not being told that she must \u201cgive herself freely\u201d to her husband no matter her feelings.<\/p>\n<p>The problem is that Lori decides to universalize from her experience to everyone else\u2019s. She claims that <em>everyone<\/em> who has premarital sex is going to experience what she does.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cMy heart shatters in the face of today\u2019s promiscuity among women young and old. I KNOW the path they are headed down; I\u2019ve lived it. I want to shout my story from the rooftops in the hopes of halting others in their tracks and redirecting their attention to our loving Heavenly Father, who will love them more deeply and unconditionally than any man on earth is capable of doing.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You see what I\u2019m saying? This is nonsense. I know lots of people who had premarital sex who don\u2019t experience any negative consequences from it today, whether married or single. I\u2019m sorry Lori\u2019s friend has sexual baggage. She needs to go to therapy to work through it, though, and stop projecting her experience onto everyone else.<\/p>\n<p>Lori finishes her post as follows:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>From what I have seen, living in sin makes people very bitter and angry, whereas living in obedience to the Lord brings joy. It\u2019s your choice, young women. Do you want to live as you please, suffer the consequences, and have joy stolen from you or do you want to obey the Lord and be full of joy? Of course, there is forgiveness for all sin and His grace covers all who believe, but it\u2019s wise to live according to God\u2019s will from a young age and walk in the paths of righteousness.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You know what? People would probably seem less \u201cbitter and angry\u201d to Lori if she would stop telling them to obey their husbands without question, and to submit themselves sexually to their husbands. Telling people to do things like this tends to make them <em>angry<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>And that\u2019s it. That\u2019s the end of Lori\u2019s post. She never offers any actual evidence to back up her claim that premarital sex is detrimental to marriage.<\/p>\n<p>If you believe that premarital sex is sin and that having premarital sex diminishes any subsequent marriage, <em>yes,<\/em> having had premarital sex probably will be detrimental to your marriage. You\u2019ll feel guilty, and your partner will feel like they were cheated out of something\u2014and vice versa, if your spouse had premarital sex. But these things are caused not by the premarital sex but by\u00a0<em>the belief that premarital sex is detrimental to marriage.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>If, in contrast, you <em>don\u2019t<\/em> believe that premarital sex is sin or that it damages subsequent marriages, having premarital sex will probably <em>not<\/em> be detrimental to your marriage. After all, you won\u2019t feel guilty, and your partner won\u2019t feel like they\u2019ve been deprived of something\u2014your partner will probably have had premarital sex as well, and you won\u2019t mind, because you\u2019ll have spent your whole life assuming that your partner will have previous partners.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, it\u2019s a self fulfilling prophesy. If you believe premarital sex is sin and damaging, don\u2019t do it. If you do, you\u2019ll struggle with guilt and yes, your marriage will suffer. If you don\u2019t believe premarital sex is wrong, in contrast, carry on! You won\u2019t have to worry about guilt or unmet expectations.\u00a0Don\u2019t expect to see Lori Alexander admit this, though.<\/p>\n<p><b>I have a <\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/lovejoyfeminism\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><b>Patreon<\/b><\/a><b>! 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