{"id":3516,"date":"2012-03-15T02:49:39","date_gmt":"2012-03-15T07:49:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markdroberts\/?p=3516"},"modified":"2015-03-13T15:33:36","modified_gmt":"2015-03-13T20:33:36","slug":"thin-places-and-jesus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markdroberts\/2012\/03\/15\/thin-places-and-jesus\/","title":{"rendered":"Thin Places and Jesus"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: right;font-size: 10px\">Part 7 of series:<a href=\"link\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\"><br>\n<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markdroberts\/series\/thin-places\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\"><em>Thin Places<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In my last post in this series, I suggested that the Temple in  Jerusalem was the paradigmatic thin place in the Old Testament. The  Temple was considered God\u2019s house, metaphorically speaking, the chief  place in which his presence lived on earth. Unlike the Tabernacle, the Temple  existed in one place, a place to which thousands of Jews made pilgrimage  each year so they might experience God in a deeper way.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s important to note, however, that the Temple was not a thin place  in the sense of a retreat center or idyllic garden of natural beauty.  The Temple courts were places of busy crowds, especially during times of  pilgrimage. The sanctuary of the Temple was off limits to non-priests,  and the holiest place of all was entered only by the high priest only  one day a year.<\/p>\n<h3>Jesus and the Temple<\/h3>\n<p>When we turn to the New Testament, we find continued respect for the  Temple. Jesus\u2019 parents, for example, presented him in the Temple in  faithfulness to the law (Luke 2:22-35). They made pilgrimage to the  Temple every year at Passover (Luke 2:41). Jesus echoed Isaiah in  regarding the Temple as a house of prayer (Luke 19:46; Isa 56:7) and he  frequently made pilgrimages there.<\/p>\n<p>However, Jesus also did and said things that seemed to undermine the  sanctity of the Temple. His so-called \u201ccleansing of the Temple\u201d was not  just a condemnation of its commercialization, but also a stab at the  heart of its sacrificial functioning. Moreover, by forgiving sins under  his own authority, Jesus\u2019 implied that the Temple and its sacrifices  were not necessary any longer. Further, by speaking of himself with  Temple imagery, Jesus also suggested that he was in some way replacing  the Temple (John 2:19-22).<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, in John 4, when Jesus encountered a woman at a well in Samaria, he critiqued the notion that certain physical places are holier than others.\u00a0 Jews believed that God was most present in the Temple in Jerusalem. Samaritans favored Mt. Gerizim as the true holy place. When the woman mentioned this controversy to Jesus, he responded:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">\u201cWoman, believe me, the hour is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such as these to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.\u201d (John 4:21-24)<\/p>\n<p>Now, of course Jesus is not weighing in on the notion of thin places <em>per se<\/em>. But it is interesting that he discounts the value of particular places are more or less optimal for worship. What really matters is not where we are when we want to encounter God, but rather the openness of our spirits (or the presence of the Holy Spirit) and the truthfulness of our understanding of God.<\/p>\n<h3>Jesus and Thin Places<\/h3>\n<p>In fact, Jesus, as the Incarnate Word of God, was \u201cGod\u2019s house,\u201d  if you will, in an altogether new sense. In Jesus, God came to earth to  reveal himself more immediately and powerfully than in the Temple.  Though the metaphor begins to break down at this point, one might say that Jesus was the  ultimate thin place. Like the Tabernacle, he was not anchored to any one  location, however. Yet as he moved around, God was exceptionally  present wherever Jesus was present. Thus, Jesus could say to those who  were with him, \u201cThe Kingdom of God is already among you\u201d (Luke  17:21).<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1963\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1963\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/44\/2011\/09\/gethsemane-olive-trees-8.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1963\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/44\/2011\/09\/gethsemane-olive-trees-8-300x214.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"214\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1963\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Garden of Gethsemane today. This is one place where Jesus went to pray. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Given  that Jesus was God in human flesh, we might think that places no longer  matter at all when it comes to our relationship with God. But,  surprisingly enough, Jesus himself seemed to seek intimacy with his Heavenly Father in special places.  In Mark 1:35, for example, we read: \u201cIn the morning, while it was still  very dark, he got up and went out to a deserted place, and there he  prayed.\u201d As his popularity increased, Jesus \u201cwould withdraw to deserted  places and pray\u201d (Luke 5:16). We have no reason to believe that Jesus thought of certain places as essentially thin. But it does seem that he found benefit in getting away from the distractions of ordinary life in order to pray.<\/p>\n<p>The example of Jesus suggests that certain places can help us pray  more faithfully, and perhaps even experience God more intimately. These  places are \u201cdeserted\u201d \u2013 free from the bustle of ordinary life. Notice,  however, that Jesus appears to have many such thin places. We have no  evidence that he frequented one or two particular spots. We do not find in  Jesus the idea that certain particular places are necessarily or  essentially thin. Rather, any place of quiet and distance from  civilization can become a thin place if one goes there to spend an  extended time with the Lord.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, if Jesus was truly the Word of God Incarnate, then he is without question the thinnest of all thin places. In fact, in Jesus, the barrier between heaven and earth wasn\u2019t just thin, it was completely non-existent. Heaven, if you will, broke through the barrier and came to be present on earth. This basic fact of Christian faith radically influences our understanding of thin places, or at least it should. It suggests that if we wish to experience God in a genuine and intimate way, then this will happen in and through Jesus. Though he is not here with us in the flesh, he is with us in spirit, or, better yet, in the Spirit. The good news of Christianity is not that certain places are thin, but that God has come to us in Jesus, and that we can experience God through Jesus and the Spirit.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part 7 of series: Thin Places In my last post in this series, I suggested that the Temple in Jerusalem was the paradigmatic thin place in the Old Testament. The Temple was considered God\u2019s house, metaphorically speaking, the chief place in which his presence lived on earth. 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