{"id":104108,"date":"2018-06-04T00:20:36","date_gmt":"2018-06-04T07:20:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=104108"},"modified":"2018-05-31T15:00:57","modified_gmt":"2018-05-31T22:00:57","slug":"interesting-piece-on-scientists-from-different-spiritual-traditions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2018\/06\/interesting-piece-on-scientists-from-different-spiritual-traditions.html","title":{"rendered":"Interesting piece on scientists from different spiritual traditions"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u2026<a href=\"http:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/science\/2018-05-24\/three-scientists-talk-about-how-their-faith-fits-with-their-work\/9543772\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">can be found here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When you ponder the vastness of the universe, the wonder of the natural world, or the mysteries of consciousness, what are you left with?<\/p>\n<p>Are you someone who sees nothing but a material world, the workings of which are just waiting to be discovered by the logical reasoning of science?<\/p>\n<p>Or are you someone who believes there must be a creator, or at least some sort of divine power that gives meaning and purpose to it all?<\/p>\n<p>Some argue that being religious is incompatible with being a scientist \u2014 but do they realise\u00a0<a class=\"external decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.com\/future\/story\/20140812-how-was-the-universe-created\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the father of the Big Bang theory<\/a>\u00a0was actually a Catholic priest,\u00a0<a class=\"external decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/scitable\/topicpage\/gregor-mendel-a-private-scientist-6618227\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the pioneer of modern genetics<\/a>\u00a0was an Augustinian monk, or the<a class=\"external decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pbs.org\/wgbh\/questionofgod\/voices\/collins.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u00a0decoder of the human genome<\/a>\u00a0converted from atheism to Christianity in his 20s?<\/p>\n<p>Scientists these days may be less religious than the average person, but just over half of scientists\u00a0<a class=\"external decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pewforum.org\/2009\/11\/05\/scientists-and-belief\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">surveyed in 2009<\/a>\u00a0said they believed in some sort of deity or higher power.<\/p>\n<p>Is the conflict between religion and science as deep as some think? We talk to three scientists about how they reconcile their faith with their work.<\/p>\n<h2>Dr Jennifer Wiseman: A Christian astrophysicist<\/h2>\n<p>As a child, Jennifer enjoyed late-night stargazing walks with her parents on their Arkansas farm in the US.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe stars were incredible,\u201d she told Kumi Taguchi on\u00a0<a class=\"external decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/iview.abc.net.au\/programs\/compass\/RN1711H012S00\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">ABC TV\u2019s Compass<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe had dark, dark skies there. And I think I was always curious at that point as to what was out there and how could I explore it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>About that time NASA was sending the Voyager spacecraft to the outer planets of the solar system for the first time, and beaming back exotic pictures.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI thought, you know, I\u2019m going to be a part of that,\u201d Jennifer says.<\/p>\n<p>She now spends her time using telescopes to study how stars and planets are made \u2014 and is credited with discovering the comet Wiseman-Skiff in 1987.<\/p>\n<p>But the sense of wonder and curiosity Jennifer felt as a child, as she looked into the vast and magnificent night sky, has never left her.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere are at least 200 billion stars in our own galaxy, and there are maybe 400 billion galaxies in our observable universe, each one of them with billions of stars,\u201d Jennifer says.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"comp-rich-text-blockquote comp-embedded-float-full source-pullquote\">\n<div class=\"quote\">\n<p>\u201cThose of us who study astronomy can tell you the numbers and all of that, but comprehending it is something totally different.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p>While science is a \u201cwonderful tool for understanding the physical universe\u201d, Jennifer says her religious beliefs give her the answers to the bigger philosophical questions in life \u2014 like how mere humans can be significant at all in the context of the universe.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn Christian faith, our significance is basically given as a gift of love from God, who\u2019s responsible for the universe,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s significant that we as human beings can actually investigate the universe, have a sense of our cosmic history, have a sense of our actual connection to the cosmos, and understand it. To me that\u2019s a gift.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe fact that we\u2019re having this conversation is incredible, given that you and I both have atoms in our bodies that were forged in stars.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo, we are physically connected to the universe and I think we have a deeper connection as well.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Jennifer sees her scientific work as deepening her faith.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGod\u2019s responsible for everything. So, by studying more of nature you\u2019re \u2026 enriching your understanding of God,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>Jennifer suggests the public\u2019s fascination with images of the universe stems from a human desire for meaning.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey\u2019re awestruck by it just as I am,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s because there\u2019s something in us that wants to know the bigger picture \u2026 that there\u2019s something more to our existence than just our survival here on this planet.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The apparent conflict between science and religion is a relatively recent phenomenon, that\u2019s been \u201cinvigorated\u201d by the media\u2019s need for drama, says Jennifer, who directs the program of\u00a0<a class=\"external decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.aaas.org\/person\/dr-jennifer-wiseman\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dialogue on Science, Ethics, and Religion for the American Association for the Advancement of Science<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cInterestingly, I don\u2019t hear much about this conflict idea in my daily work with scientists,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I talk to people I find that most people really realise that there are deeper questions of life that science can\u2019t fully address, and they don\u2019t really see why there should be any conflict.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>While some point to statements in the Bible as evidence Christianity is incompatible with science, Jennifer says the book has to be seen in its historical context.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou have to look at biblical literature from the perspective of when it was written, the original audiences, the original languages, the original purposes \u2026 the message that was meant to be conveyed by it,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Bible\u2019s not a science text.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The article also profiles a <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Buddhist<\/a> and a Muslim.\u00a0 I would pedantically quibble that <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Buddhism<\/a> is not a religion is that it does not involve the worship of a God or gods, but that\u2019s minor quibble.\u00a0 It is interesting to see how the sciences fit in with these other worldviews.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/tofspot.blogspot.com\/2013\/11\/summa-origines-scientiarum-articulus-1.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Michael Flynn has, as I have mentioned in this space before, done a bang up job of showing that \u201cscience\u201d as we think of it today is the natural child of late medieval Latin Christianity<\/a>.\u00a0 It\u2019s where three vital ingredients came together in a historically unique way that birthed the sciences: 1) belief in a universe that was the creation of Logos who gave that universe a rational order; 2) belief that creatures acted on each other in ways that obeyed that order; and, 3) belief that our minds, made in his image and likeness, could comprehend that order.<\/p>\n<p>All three of these things are faith assumptions and all three are necessary to have in place before the sciences could get going. If you don\u2019t believe the universe makes sense, you are not going to try to understand it.\u00a0 If you think God rules the universe directly and not through his creatures, you will not try to understand the relationship between creatures.\u00a0 And if you think your mind cannot possibly understand the universe, you also won\u2019t try to do science since \u201ctrying to understand the universe\u201d is what science is.<\/p>\n<p>I know.\u00a0 I know.\u00a0 But Euclid!\u00a0 Aristotle!\u00a0 Hypatia!\u00a0 Read Flynn.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u2026can be found here: When you ponder the vastness of the universe, the wonder of the natural world, or the mysteries of consciousness, what are you left with? Are you someone who sees nothing but a material world, the workings of which are just waiting to be discovered by the logical reasoning of science? 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