{"id":114225,"date":"2019-11-20T00:17:55","date_gmt":"2019-11-20T07:17:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=114225"},"modified":"2019-11-14T15:49:35","modified_gmt":"2019-11-14T22:49:35","slug":"where-peter-is-takes-up-the-douthat-interview-w-cardinal-burke","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2019\/11\/where-peter-is-takes-up-the-douthat-interview-w-cardinal-burke.html","title":{"rendered":"Where Peter Is<\/i> takes up the Douthat interview w\/ Cardinal Burke"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

\u2026and does their typical fair and judicious work<\/a>.\u00a0 The author, Mike Lewis, is (I think) very charitable to the Cardinal, remarking:<\/p>\n

[U]nlike many other Catholics who see Cardinal Burke as a Machiavellian and power-obsessed schemer, I actually believe he is sincere, not terribly political, and is following his conscience. Those who have met him, even his critics, have told me that he is\u2013at heart\u2013a kind-hearted and dedicated priest who deeply cares about the Church and the salvation of souls. In that way, he\u2019s not an\u00a0enemy<\/em>\u00a0of Pope Francis, even if the effects of his words and and actions against Francis have had significant negative effects on the Church.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Nonetheless, Lewis gets to the nub of the problem:<\/p>\n

Prior to his election, many committed conservative Catholics here had a vague sense that he was a faithful, orthodox prelate. They might not have even known what he looked like, but his name was consistently rattled off in the list of orthodox Catholic bishops (Chaput, Burke, Olmsted, Gomez, etc.). I didn\u2019t realize anything was off about his views until he told a French interview in early 2015 that if Francis taught something he disagreed with, \u201cI will resist.<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n

It was fortunate that I had been studying papal primacy at the time because I was curious, having been influenced and confused by various strains of traditionalism, about how Catholics can be certain that a particular official teaching was orthodox. My studies led me to a\u00a0\u00a0CDF document from 1998<\/a>, that summarizes the Church\u2019s teachings on papal primacy. These words in particular struck me:<\/p>\n

The Successor of Peter is the rock which guarantees a rigorous fidelity to the Word of God against arbitrariness and conformism<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It\u2019s simply not rational to hold, on one hand, that the Church teaches the pope is the guarantor of orthodoxy, while on the other, to believe (as Burke does), that it\u2019s acceptable to call for resistance to his false teachings. It\u2019s not only impossible, but it\u2019s absurd. My study of the papacy has only reinforced the truth: Cardinal Burke\u2019s circle cannot be squared.<\/p>\n

But if I wasn\u2019t knowledgeable about the papacy, if I hadn\u2019t begun to understand the relationship between the papacy and the Magisterium, I might have simply accepted what Cardinal Burke said. And I think there are\u00a0many<\/em>\u00a0well-meaning conservative Catholics who have fallen into that trap. They are in our families, our communities, and among our friends.<\/p>\n

Since 2013, Cardinal Burke has been presented by the Catholic media as the voice of orthodoxy in contrast to a heterodox pope. And he\u2019s done very little to dissuade his supporters from embracing all kinds of extremist positions and actions. For example, in the interview with Douthat, he says this about the man who stole the indigenous statues and threw them in the Tiber:<\/p>\n

I can only express my respect for him and my gratitude for his courageous witness to the faith.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Additionally, he described Antonio Socci, the author of a book that denies the validity of Benedict\u2019s resignation as a \u201csaintly man<\/a>.\u201d Likewise, Burke called the barring of John Rist from\u00a0Pontifical<\/em>\u00a0Universities (after Rist signed an open letter accusing the pope of heresy) as evidence of a \u201ctotalitarian mentality<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n

It\u2019s very difficult to find much of anything in Burke\u2019s public record suggesting he\u2019s actually helping Pope Francis or being a particularly good cardinal, much less a teacher of the faith.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

What impresses me, as ever, is the way the Holy Father responds to all this, which is to say he does not respond.\u00a0 His silence in response to all this is, to me, Christ-like.\u00a0 It is something I wish I were more capable of, yammering Irishman that I am.<\/p>\n

As Francis\u00a0described the situation<\/a>\u00a0to a Mexican interviewer,<\/p>\n

I pray for them because they are wrong \u2026 I saw [them as] poor people [who are] manipulated by some. \u2026 Seriously, I looked at it with a sense of humor and, I would say, tenderness, paternal tenderness. That is to say, it did not hurt me at all. What hurts me is the hypocrisy, the lie. That hurts me. But a mistake like that, in which there are people whose heads have been filled\u2026. No please. We have to care for them also, we have to take care of them.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And we must pray for them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Amen.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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