{"id":289,"date":"2011-09-16T07:06:00","date_gmt":"2011-09-16T07:06:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links\/"},"modified":"2014-12-31T11:54:12","modified_gmt":"2014-12-31T18:54:12","slug":"various-pavonish-links","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html","title":{"rendered":"Various Pavonish links"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/canonlawblog.blogspot.com\/2011\/09\/summary-of-my-posts-on-zurek-pavone.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ed Peters offers a roundup of his typically balanced and nuanced perspective regarding the canonical aspects of the situation.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/daily-news\/amarillo-bishop-recalls-father-frank-pavone-restricts-his-faculties\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Joan Frawley Desmond does her usual sterling job of reporting on it<\/a>, while the comboxes are\u2026 unedifying. <\/p>\n<p>Dr. Gerard Nadal brings joy to my heart in various ways.  <a href=\"http:\/\/gerardnadal.com\/2011\/09\/16\/freeing-father-pavone\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">First, he offers a sane reply to some crazy new site called \u201cFree Fr. Pavone\u201d, <\/a>by pointing out that Fr. Pavone is not imprisoned, that the priesthood is not a prison, and that lashing out at bishops with baseless invective, loony conspiracy theories and nasty accusations (on one site, I was seeing paranoids who were pretty certain that EWTN is conspiring with them damned librul bishops to destroy conservative folk hero priests in order to clear the field for the re-election of Obama) does not help Fr. Pavone, to put it mildly.  So, for instance, th<a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/news\/headlines\/index.cfm?storyid=11751\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">is foolish display of the Catholic conservative circular firing squad<\/a> is ill-advised to stop its prolife activity in order to start picketing Catholic parishes in Amarillo.  Ed Peters puts it succinctly, <a href=\"http:\/\/canonlawblog.blogspot.com\/2011\/09\/cbrs-plans-to-aggravate-fr-pavones.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThis is plain nuttiness.\u201d<\/a> <strong>Update<\/strong>: Peters reports: \u201cIt appears that Fr. Pavone <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">is<\/span>, after all,  connected to CBR. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abortionno.org\/About_Us\/pfl.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: #0000c0\">Pavone  sits (sat?) on CBR\u2019s Board of Directors<\/span><\/a>. It is now incumbent on him (or  better, his counsel) to separate himself from CBR\u2019s plans.\u201d<br>I was also greatly heartened to hear that I am apparently so beyond the pale that paranoid conspiracy theorists have written me off because I was not included in the spam announcing the birth of \u201cFree Fr. Pavone\u201d.  This fills me with unspeakable joy.  Since I know no more about the facts of the case then I did yesterday\u2013a truth which applies to every fanatical partisan on both sides of the question\u2013I continue to do what every sensible Catholic should do: defer to the bishop\u2019s rightful authority, let the facts emerge from the investigation (and the appeal to Rome) and let the chips fall where they may.  The reflexive, kneejerk tendency of alleged \u201cfaithful\u201d Catholic to perpetually assume that every American bishop is a fifth columnist working to destroy the Church is foreign to the mind of Christ.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, the good cop\/bad cop scenario being concocted by some of Fr. Pavone\u2019s crazier defenders in order to pit former bishop Yanta against current bishop Zurek is not rooted in reality.  Yes, Good Bishop Yanta welcomed Fr. Pavone to Amarillo and supported his ministry.  So has Good Bishop Zurek.  However, there is a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freerepublic.com\/focus\/f-religion\/1742470\/posts\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">testimony from a former PFL worker from 2006 that bears reading<\/a>.  It gives some insight into the kind of pastoral issues that both Bishop Yanta, and Bishop Zurek are concerned about.  The former PFL worker compares and contrasts the work of the Helpers of God\u2019s Precious Infants under Msgr. Reilly to what was experienced at PFL.  This doesn\u2019t mean that Fr. Frank is involved with anything immoral, but merely reveals the possibility that Bp Zurek has legitimate pastoral concerns.  <\/p>\n<p>And, yes \u2013 I said that his challenges began under Bishop Yanta.  The very man who welcomed him and permitted him to initially erect the MEV some years ago, is the same bishop who put the kabosh to the fledgling religious community.  It was challenged all the way up to the Signatura, which upheld Bishop Yanta\u2019s position.  Now, people blame Bishop Zurek, even for that.<\/p>\n<p>As I told a reader, I think when things shake out it will be the case that both sides on this controversy are partly right and partly wrong.  Meanwhile, we pray and let the competent authorities do their jobs.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ed Peters offers a roundup of his typically balanced and nuanced perspective regarding the canonical aspects of the situation. Joan Frawley Desmond does her usual sterling job of reporting on it, while the comboxes are\u2026 unedifying. Dr. Gerard Nadal brings joy to my heart in various ways. First, he offers a sane reply to some [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":92,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-289","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Various Pavonish links<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Ed Peters offers a roundup of his typically balanced and nuanced perspective regarding the canonical aspects of the situation.Joan Frawley Desmond does\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Various Pavonish links\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Ed Peters offers a roundup of his typically balanced and nuanced perspective regarding the canonical aspects of the situation.Joan Frawley Desmond does\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Catholic and Enjoying It!\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2011-09-16T07:06:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2014-12-31T18:54:12+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/3469526-2544986133012766690?l=markshea.blogspot.com\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Mark Shea\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Mark Shea\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"3 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html\",\"name\":\"Various Pavonish links\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2011-09-16T07:06:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2014-12-31T18:54:12+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/c1a9ac1e557d3c626974fd6692818ad5\"},\"description\":\"Ed Peters offers a roundup of his typically balanced and nuanced perspective regarding the canonical aspects of the situation.Joan Frawley Desmond does\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Various Pavonish links\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/\",\"name\":\"Catholic and Enjoying It!\",\"description\":\"Mark Shea&#039;s Blog: So That No Thought of Mine, No Matter How Stupid, Should Ever Go Unpublished Again!\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/c1a9ac1e557d3c626974fd6692818ad5\",\"name\":\"Mark Shea\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f287911f45adc932ad24ddbae3597ed5?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f287911f45adc932ad24ddbae3597ed5?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Mark Shea\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/author\/markshea\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Various Pavonish links","description":"Ed Peters offers a roundup of his typically balanced and nuanced perspective regarding the canonical aspects of the situation.Joan Frawley Desmond does","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Various Pavonish links","og_description":"Ed Peters offers a roundup of his typically balanced and nuanced perspective regarding the canonical aspects of the situation.Joan Frawley Desmond does","og_url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html","og_site_name":"Catholic and Enjoying It!","article_published_time":"2011-09-16T07:06:00+00:00","article_modified_time":"2014-12-31T18:54:12+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/3469526-2544986133012766690?l=markshea.blogspot.com"}],"author":"Mark Shea","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Mark Shea","Est. reading time":"3 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html","name":"Various Pavonish links","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#website"},"datePublished":"2011-09-16T07:06:00+00:00","dateModified":"2014-12-31T18:54:12+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/c1a9ac1e557d3c626974fd6692818ad5"},"description":"Ed Peters offers a roundup of his typically balanced and nuanced perspective regarding the canonical aspects of the situation.Joan Frawley Desmond does","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/09\/various-pavonish-links.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Various Pavonish links"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/","name":"Catholic and Enjoying It!","description":"Mark Shea&#039;s Blog: So That No Thought of Mine, No Matter How Stupid, Should Ever Go Unpublished Again!","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/c1a9ac1e557d3c626974fd6692818ad5","name":"Mark Shea","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f287911f45adc932ad24ddbae3597ed5?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f287911f45adc932ad24ddbae3597ed5?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"Mark Shea"},"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/author\/markshea"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/289","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/92"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=289"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/289\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=289"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=289"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=289"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}