{"id":30582,"date":"2011-10-14T00:13:16","date_gmt":"2011-10-14T07:13:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=30582"},"modified":"2014-12-30T21:27:55","modified_gmt":"2014-12-31T04:27:55","slug":"friends-dont-let-friends-be-calvinist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2011\/10\/friends-dont-let-friends-be-calvinist.html","title":{"rendered":"Friends Don&#8217;t Let Friends Be Calvinist"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Mark Driscoll, local Seattle cult of personality leader among the Obnoxious Christian set, is good at saying \u201cconfrontational\u201d stuff that is dumb as a stump.\u00a0 Fresh from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;aq=0&amp;oq=Marc+Driscoll+Ava&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1T4ACAW_enUS400US347&amp;q=mark+driscoll+avatar\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">denouncing Avatar <\/a>as the most evillest satanic film ever and\u00a0declaring that he <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?sourceid=navclient&amp;aq=2&amp;oq=mark+driscoll+beat&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;rlz=1T4ACAW_enUS400US347&amp;q=mark+driscoll+beat+up+jesus\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">couldn\u2019t worship a\u00a0Jesus he could beat up <\/a>(a sentiment shared with the guards who oversaw the scourging at the pillar),\u00a0 he now unburdens himself of his need to tell\u00a0Those People Over There\u00a0that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jesusneedsnewpr.net\/mark-driscoll-god-hates-you\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">God hates them<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Some of you, God hates you. Some of you, God is sick of you. God is frustrated with you. God is wearied by you. God has suffered long enough with you. He doesn\u2019t think you\u2019re cute. He doesn\u2019t think it\u2019s funny. He doesn\u2019t think your excuse is \u201cmeritous\u201d [the word he\u2019s looking for there is \u201cmeritorious]. He doesn\u2019t care if you compare yourself to someone worse than you, He hates them too. God hates, right now, personally, objectively hates some of you.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Driscoll is what you get when you have a charismatic dynamic bully with a smattering of education and a big mouth who decides he is a Prophet.\u00a0 I\u2019ll give Mars Hill a few more years before the Dominator does something that destroys the cult of personality he\u2019s built around himself.\u00a0 Meanwhile, this particular Pronouncement from the Chosen One reminds me of an exchange I saw years ago over on Steve Ray\u2019s board.\u00a0 Some inquiring person came to the board and asked, in all simplicity, \u201cDoes God love me?\u201d\u00a0 Typically, when somebody asks that they do so because they are a humble soul.\u00a0 Catholics, naturally, answered, \u201cOf course!\u201d\u00a0 But a Calvinist replied, \u201cI don\u2019t know.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It all depended, you see,\u00a0on whether the inquirer was Elect.\u00a0 If so, then yes, God loved them.\u00a0 If not, then too bad for them.\u00a0 Driscoll\u2019s tough talk is rooted in that shiny assurance Calvinists have that they are, naturellement, part of the Elect.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll take Catholics and their indiscriminately loving\u00a0God any day.<\/p>\n<p>Hat tip: the aptly named \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jesusneedsnewpr.net\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jesus Needs New PR<\/a>\u201d site.\u00a0 With representative like Driscoll, it\u2019s no mystery why <a href=\"http:\/\/marysaggies.blogspot.com\/2011\/10\/why-young-christians-leave-faith.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">young people are abandoning Christianity in droves<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mark Driscoll, local Seattle cult of personality leader among the Obnoxious Christian set, is good at saying \u201cconfrontational\u201d stuff that is dumb as a stump.\u00a0 Fresh from denouncing Avatar as the most evillest satanic film ever 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