{"id":34975,"date":"2012-04-26T10:43:33","date_gmt":"2012-04-26T17:43:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=34975"},"modified":"2014-12-30T17:43:22","modified_gmt":"2014-12-31T00:43:22","slug":"since-various-people-have-shown-up-in-the-comboxes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2012\/04\/since-various-people-have-shown-up-in-the-comboxes.html","title":{"rendered":"Since various people have shown up in the comboxes"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u2026attempting to play the \u201cGosh!\u00a0 Who even knows *what* anti-semitism even *is* anyway!\u201d game, I have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2012\/04\/michael-voris-begins-his-work.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">expanded my post on Voris\u2019 attempt to mainstream E. Michael Jones toxic kookery <\/a>with some documentation of what I am talking about.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2012\/04\/michael-voris-begins-his-work.html#comment-65865\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Other comboxers <\/a>are also now chiming in with their own documentation as well. To wit:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In light of Voris\u2019 supposed reputation for getting to the bottom of things and showing us all the *real* truth, he is remarkably un-curious in regard to accusations of anti-Semitism against Jones.\u00a0 All he did was ask whether Jones is anti-Semitic and then took his word for it and accepted Jones\u2019 limited and self-serving definition of anti-Semitism.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dennis O\u2019Donovan did basically the same thing in regard to Jones when interviewing Brammer.\u00a0\u00a0 Here are some facts that seem to have completely eluded the normally hard-hitting, probing Voris:<\/p>\n<p>For instance, Jones has promoted his personal theories about why Jews are a societal problem to a fellow named \u201cBrother\u201d Nathanael Kapner. The name of the interview was \u201cJewish Control of the Catholic Mind.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.realzionistnews.com\/?p=476\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.realzionistnews.com\/?p=476<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a question and point that I think would have been substantive and legit, especially for supposedly hard-hitting journalist like Voris:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDr. Jones, do you think it was appropriate for you to publicly promote your theories of Jewish depravity to people like Brother Nathanael Kapner and his audience? Kapner believes Jews were behind 9-11. President McKinley was murdered by Jews. President Wilson was blackmailed into WWI by Jews. There\u2019s a piece on his website explaining how the Jews \u2018prompted\u2019 the Holocaust and a whole section of articles on \u2018the Jewification of America.\u2019 He recently wrote, \u2018I now PRESENT MYSELF, Brother Nathanael Kapner, to STOP THIS RUINATION by the Christ-Hating, Constitution-Hating, Freedom Hating Jew, in a major public way.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<div>And this is what Brother Kapner had to say about Jones afterward:<\/div>\n<p>\u201cIt was great working for the first time with E. Michael Jones. He and I really hit it off\u2026Michael is a bit more optimistic than I regarding a change in our society from Jewish control. I really don\u2019t see it changing, in fact, I see it getting worse. The Jews with their militarists, just pulled off another false flag, another \u2018terrorist\u2019 hoax, with the panty bomber. The boy got on the plane in Amsterdam without a passport. The Haskells\u2019 testimony was blacked out by the Jew-owned media and Chertoff (I was the FIRST to break this news) is a consultant for Full Body Scanners and will make TONS of bucks from the false flag hoax. Americans, dumbed downed Americans, swallowed this hoax, hook \u2013 line \u2013 and sinker. The passive masses will now let the Jews take their clothes off in front of them and make millions from naked Americans at airports. AND \u2013 MORE FALSE FLAGS ARE COMING for the Dumbed Downed Americans who BELIEVE what the Jews tell them!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Can you see why this sort of thing might naturally raise eye-brows, Dr. Jones?<\/p>\n<p>Might it also naturally raise questions that White Supremacist groups have promoted your writings about Jews?<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.vnnforum.com\/showthread.php?t=80166\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.vnnforum.com\/showthread.php?t=80166<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stormfront.org\/forum\/t524085\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.stormfront.org\/forum\/t524085\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><!-- end .comment-content --><!-- end .comment-meta -->One could also ask Jones about his collaboration with and support of Robert Sungenis. Google Sungenis and Jews. Add in E. Michael Jones after. You\u2019ll find plenty of material there.<\/p>\n<p>Jones helped Sungenis to spread calumny against his bishop in Culture Wars magazine. Then he published an article defending Sungenis called \u201cFear of the Jews in Harrisburg.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<li id=\"comment-65867\">\n<blockquote>\n<div>\n<p><!-- end .comment-meta -->Jones also did an interview with a racist named Peter Schaenk in which he again promoted his theories of Jewish depravity. Here\u2019s a warm note from Schaenk to his white supremacist friends at National Vanguard about his interviews:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li id=\"comment-65881\">\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.vnnforum.com\/showthread.php?t=30911\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.vnnforum.com\/showthread.php?t=30911<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a comment from \u201cBill Blass\u201d to Schaenk about the interview with E. Michael Jones:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEven though he is not a \u2018White Nationalist\u2019 he obviously has some Traditionalist sympathy for ethnic states in the Western\/Christian tradition. I wish he would have addressed the issue of how Traditionalist Christians, Nationalist Conservatives, and White Nationalists might work together and tolerate each other\u2019s differences in order to pursue our substantial common interests. Good job, and let\u2019s try to get Jones on again!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Below are some comments made by Schaenk:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI believe there is a White Genocide being carried out by non-Whites on behalf of the New World Order, or more aptly described\u2026 The Jew World Order.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe only reason people conduct background checks is to excavate for Mud. Mud slinging, the old Jew tactic\u2026Attack the person, not the message.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was RIGHT for Alex Linder and [White supremacist] VNN to demonstrate in Knoxville, Tennessee, in order to bring attention to the savage butchering of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. In both of these cases, only the so-called \u201cWhite Supremacist\u201d came to the aid of these victims to do the RIGHT thing\u2026Should I run away from these groups because they believe in the racial superiority of the White race? Is that such a crime against humanity to believe your race is superior to others?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cToday, the White race has no choice but to allow non-Whites into their businesses, private clubs, schools and neighborhoods. The net result of this has been rampant crime in once peaceful neighborhoods, the destruction of \u201cMain Street USA\u201d, an ever expanding Police State and soaring taxes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThese theories [about government mind control] are designed to keep people paralyzed and distracted while the Jew World Order continues it\u2019s take over of the West. They have created political movements with the same agenda, to promote chaos and disorder in society.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Peter Schaenk <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/shankradio.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/shankradio.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then there was \u201cRoy\u201d, who after listening to the interview with E. Michael Jones thought the interview was actually with the notorious anti-Semite Michael Hoffman, rather than Jones, at least until he was corrected by \u201cMaurice\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/reasonradionetwork.com\/20080922\/peter-schaenk-interviews-e-michael-jones-mon-922\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/reasonradionetwork.com\/20080922\/peter-schaenk-interviews-e-michael-jones-mon-922<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Jones also said this in the interview: \u201cThe bigger question is whether we\u2019ve all become Jews by internalizing their rules of discourse.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTheir rules of discourse?\u201d As if Jews are all the same? Chuck Schumer and David Horowitz are about as diametrically opposed as two people could be. But they\u2019re both Jews. And what of the Orthodox Jews? Are they covered by the same broad strokes? He speaks of \u201cthe Jews\u201d in this broad-brush way on many other occasions. Does that suggest bigotry?<\/p>\n<p>I think it\u2019s interesting that Schaenk begins the interview segment with Jones by juxtaposing a section of Hitler\u2019s Mein Kampf with Jones\u2019 book. Has Jones ever raised an objection to that? Has he ever repudiated it? If not, why not?<\/p>\n<p>Then there was this exchange:<\/p>\n<p>Schaenk: \u201cWhat is the Jewish relation to Atheism?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jones: \u201c[The Jews] will promote it! Weaken the dominant culture in cultures that are religiously based.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Isn\u2019t stereotyping and broad-bushing like this more evidence of bigotry? What of all the religious Jews? The Orthodox? The Chasidim? Why are all \u201cthe Jews\u201d are thrown into one bad lump by Jones?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<p>This is serious stuff.\u00a0 That Voris and Brammer are attempting to mainstream this wicked dreck should be opposed by any Catholic who takes the faith seriously.\u00a0 Interested in \u201ctrapping and exposing lies and falsehoods\u201d, Mr. Voris?\u00a0 Physician, heal thyself.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u2026attempting to play the \u201cGosh!\u00a0 Who even knows *what* anti-semitism even *is* anyway!\u201d game, I have expanded my post on Voris\u2019 attempt to mainstream E. Michael Jones toxic kookery with some documentation of what I am talking about.\u00a0 Other comboxers are also now chiming in with their own documentation as well. 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