{"id":35189,"date":"2012-05-21T00:03:22","date_gmt":"2012-05-21T07:03:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=35189"},"modified":"2014-12-30T17:14:06","modified_gmt":"2014-12-31T00:14:06","slug":"oh-sure-its-immoral-according-to-some","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2012\/05\/oh-sure-its-immoral-according-to-some.html","title":{"rendered":"Oh sure it&#8217;s &#8220;immoral&#8221; according to some"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u2026but there are a lot of questions and definitions that need to be clarified before we just condemn it outright.  <\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/owI7DOeO_yg\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>What do we mean by \u201ckill\u201d for instance?  It\u2019s sooo complicated that I don\u2019t even know if we can define it?  Is it really \u201ckilling\u201d if the poor are a threat to peaceful and decent law-abiding citizens?  Isn\u2019t it self defense to kill these sources of Terror?  And isn\u2019t killing in self-defense just?  And even if some Pharisees are going to get all self-righteous when brave Americans are dying at the hands of poor people, isn\u2019t it a fact that killing the poor *works*?  Well, excuse me for living, but I\u2019m not going to split hairs about \u201cmurder\u201d in some abstract theologian\u2019s Ivory Tower when a poor person might possibly be thinking of doing something bad in several years.  I say kill the poor *now* before they commit the crime I am fearful about.  The fears of decent people like me are sufficient grounds for killing strangers on the off chance it will keep me safe.  It\u2019s not murder.  It\u2019s enhanced metabolic reduction.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u2026but there are a lot of questions and definitions that need to be clarified before we just condemn it outright. What do we mean by \u201ckill\u201d for instance? It\u2019s sooo complicated that I don\u2019t even know if we can define it? Is it really \u201ckilling\u201d if the poor are a threat to peaceful and decent [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":92,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[71],"class_list":["post-35189","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-salvation-through-leviathan-by-any-means-necessary"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Oh sure it&#039;s &quot;immoral&quot; according to some<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"...but there are a lot of questions and definitions that need to be clarified before we just condemn it outright. 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