{"id":41620,"date":"2013-01-29T01:04:15","date_gmt":"2013-01-29T08:04:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=41620"},"modified":"2014-12-30T02:48:36","modified_gmt":"2014-12-30T09:48:36","slug":"675-comments-later","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2013\/01\/675-comments-later.html","title":{"rendered":"675 comments later&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>My FB is still full of completely delusional people who seriously think secession is a brilliant idea that will be totally peaceful and not a bloodbath.<\/p>\n<p>So far, there have been three schools emerging in the discussion.\u00a0 One is the school that envisions a sort of Catholic Benedictine Hobbiton that will just peacefully go somewhere out in the boondocks, brew beer, have kids, dress modestly (no pants ladies) and talk about high theology while we all read Chesterton.\u00a0 Think of it as Beacon House on steroids or the Napoleon of Notting Hill transplanted to wilderness of Wyoming.\u00a0 These keep pointing to places like the former USSR\u2019s miraculous peaceful and insisting that history will just repeat itself, truth them.<\/p>\n<p>Another group that has emerged has been the angry progressive, outraged about injustice to American Indians, fed up with our drone wars, militarism, and hedonist, democratic capitalist empire asserting itself at gunpoint around the world.\u00a0 Think of it as Occupy Wyoming.\u00a0 These too assert that secession will just happen peacefully\u2026 somehow.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, there is the biggest and most aggressive contingent, the Tea Party gun zealots who have been having hysterics about HITLERSTALINMAOBAMA!!!! and his legions of gun grabbing goons who are coming in their black helicopters to kidnap our children and turn them into Janissaries of the Islamonazicommieatheistsharia New World Order and march us all into concentration camps.\u00a0 These tell me, as well, that secession will proceed peacefully\u2013unless the authorities don\u2019t *let* it proceed peacefully, in which case it will be necessary for all True Patriots to commend themselves to Divine Providence as our Founding Fathers did and take up the sword for freedom!<\/p>\n<p>What this means in translation is, if no state legislature votes to secede, it will be necessary for \u201ccitizen soldiers\u201d (aka \u201cvigilantes\u201d) to do one of two things:<\/p>\n<p>1. form a compound bristling with arms in which the residents refuse to pay taxes till the Feds come to a) arrest them or b) immolate them and their families in a Waco-style gun battle;<\/p>\n<p>2. Take the fight to The Man by committing acts of terror such as shooting up a mall, blowing up a Federal Building, or bombing some\u00a0 military installation or other symbol of Federal power.<\/p>\n<p>All the forms of secession listed above have one thing in common: they will all end in some form of violence and could very easily end in some form of deadly force.\u00a0 What none of them will end in is\u2026 secession.\u00a0 That ain\u2019t happening.<\/p>\n<p>Some of my readers complain that my diagnosis of their delusional fantasy is really just a testament to my cowardice because I won\u2019t go down \u201cfighting for the right side.\u201d\u00a0 Others appeal to the Founding Fathers and complain of Obama\u2019s tyrannical acts (HHS Mandate, secret kill lists) as sufficient reason to go for this lunatic plan.<\/p>\n<p>What nobody does is look at Just war teaching or anything the bishops of the Church have to say.\u00a0 They get all this stuff from teh interwebz and various samizdat written by libertarian kooks and fevered theorists and (most recently) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/They-Fired-First-Shot-2012\/product-reviews\/1878909266\/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&amp;filterBy=addOneStar&amp;showViewpoints=0\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">nutjob fans of Medjugorje<\/a> who have now passed from believing money-grubbing charlatans to spinning their quackery into apocalyptic nightmare scenarios compounded of Protestant endtimes lunacy, loopy Glenn Beck conspiracy theories, and crazy Catholic fever swamp panic.\u00a0 All this is egged on by cynical demagogues like Sean Hannity, who know perfectly well that secession is never going to happen, but who keep the base energized with this as the latest thing to scream about.<\/p>\n<p>The problem, of course, is not that any state is going to secede.\u00a0 It\u2019s that some new Tim McVeigh, impatient with the slowness of the American people to realize the Divine Plan, tries to hurry history along with another bomb at another Federal building or a some slaughter of IRS workers or some other outrage done for the love of the Real America.<\/p>\n<p>The whole secessionist pipe dream is not\u2013for 99.9% of the flabby daydreamers yakking about it out there, anything they will ever lift a finger to accomplish, of course.\u00a0 But it\u2019s still an indictment, particularly of the Faithful Conservative[TM]\u00a0Catholics who toy around with that crap.\u00a0 These guys lazily talk as though they somehow stand in the tradition of Martin Luther King (\u201cHey!\u00a0 He applied for a gun permit once since he, for some reason, thought some nut might shoot at him!\u00a0 So he favors our plan for armed insurrection!\u201d) while never quite addressing the fact that King (and St. Paul) faced a world a helluva lot more hostile than that faced by the plump white suburbanites who lost an election and are now grumbling about making war on their fellow citizens.\u00a0And, like St. Paul, King did not secede or preach armed insurrection.\u00a0 He\u00a0evangelized that culture. \u00a0What Catholics *should* be talking about is evangelization, not secession.\u00a0 We in fact live in an hour of plenty, after a century that has seen a 7000% growth in the Church worldwide.\u00a0 How *dare* we talk about despair, giving up, leaving, having no hope?\u00a0 That is the sin of sloth, not of patriotism and certainly not of courage.\u00a0 Before you start gassing on about the brave deeds you will do in the coming apocalypse, how about you secessionists put down the remote, close the laptop and maybe take half an hour for Eucharistic Adoration, or to work in a soup kitchen or start a Bible study?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My FB is still full of completely delusional people who seriously think secession is a brilliant idea that will be totally peaceful and not a bloodbath. 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