{"id":54821,"date":"2014-09-11T11:14:57","date_gmt":"2014-09-11T18:14:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=54821"},"modified":"2014-12-28T21:06:42","modified_gmt":"2014-12-29T04:06:42","slug":"on-the-amazing-malleability-of-private-judgment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/09\/on-the-amazing-malleability-of-private-judgment.html","title":{"rendered":"On the Amazing Malleability of &#8220;Private Judgment&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>My reader Zippy Catholic used to note that when Progressives want to blow off Church teaching they appeal to \u201cprimacy of conscience\u201d as the All-Excusing Catchphrase.  Don\u2019t like the Church\u2019s teaching on the Pelvic Issues?  Voila! Primacy of Conscience excuses you from obeying or even listening to what the Church says.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, he noted, conservative dissenters perform the same feat by invoking the magical incantation \u201cPrudential judgment\u201d.  Does the Church bug you with its teaching on war, torture, capital punishment, your sacred wallet, the poor, the weak, and the vulnerable who happen to have been born in the wrong country?  No problem!  Just say the magic words \u201cprudential judgment\u201d and you can ignore the Church completely.  <\/p>\n<p>Both camps make use of Court Prophets to lend themselves an illusion of weightiness for refusing docility to the Magisterium\u2019s teaching.  Need an excuse for ignoring <em>Humanae Vitae<\/em> or <em>Evangelium Vitae<\/em>?  Hey!  Just quote Charles Curran or Dick McBrien or Hans Kung.  Beside HV defined no *dogmas* so it\u2019s optional.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, if you are a conservative dissenter who wants to torture somebody, just go get a  screen grab of Fr. Brian Harrison\u2019s tendentious (and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2010\/03\/clarification-by-fr-brian-harrison-o-s.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">long repudiated by the author<\/a>) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rtforum.org\/lt\/lt119.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">defense of torture in interrogation<\/a>.  Or if you want to launch an unjust war, just ignore two popes and all the bishops of the world and go read Michael Novak explaining why \u201cprudential judgement\u201d means you can go ahead and do it anyway.  And if there\u2019s something about the Church\u2019s social doctrine that inconveniences you, just have <a href=\"http:\/\/americamagazine.org\/content\/all-things\/new-heights-hubris-george-weigel\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">George Weigel highlight it in red and gold <\/a>so you can take the stuff you like and blow off the bits you don\u2019t.  Or, better still, you can simply hire a court prophet to declare to you that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecatholicthing.org\/columns\/2014\/the-myth-of-catholic-social-teaching-2.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Catholic Social teaching is a complete myth<\/a> *and* declare that anybody who says otherwise is an \u201cidolator\u201d for that extra-special below-the-belt sense of \u201c\u2018Shut up!\u2019 he explained\u201d demagoguery that crushes conversation and scotches <a href=\"http:\/\/branemrys.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/zmirak-on-usury.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">troubling intellectual inquiry<\/a> in the egg.<\/p>\n<p>The key to all this sort of thinking is to avoid <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mark-shea.com\/docility.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">docility <\/a>to the Church\u2019s teaching at all costs (the notion that you should listen to and obey the Church, even on on non-dogmatic issues unless you can show a *damn* good reason why not) and instead insist that as long as a single voice can be found somewhere in the Church advocating whatever you want to do or ignore then, as this guy says \u201cthe jury is still out\u201d and you can go ahead and bullheadedly ignore the Church, even when it is quite  luminously clear and unambiguous:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/2hGjl3zcJMk\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Yes. The jury is still out on a war that failed to meet a single criterion of just war teaching.  The jury is still out on whether grave and intrinsic evil acts of torture are really always wrong when you want to call them \u201cenhanced interrogation\u201d.  The jury is still out on whether to listen to the Church\u2019s teaching on the death penalty when you really really want to kill somebody you could just as easily incarcerate for life.  The jury is still out on whether you should help desperate children at the border or remand them to rape, sex slavery, and death in their country of origin because paperwork takes precedence over their lives.  The jury is still out on whether you should give state benefits for poor families with \u201ctoo many\u201d children (though it\u2019s not out on whether those families must not use contraception on pain of mortal sin).  If you *dare* to suggest that you should heed the Church here, you are declared a \u201cpapal idolator\u201d for thinking that docility is smart even when the Church does not define its teaching as dogma.<\/p>\n<p>In all these areas, \u201cprudential judgment\u201d is used adroitly and perpetually to excuse dissenting conservative Catholics from listening to or heeding the obvious guidance of the Church.<\/p>\n<p>But how about in matters like \u201cwhether Catholics should continue to be involved in a parade in New York?\u201d or \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/shar.es\/11FJcC\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">whether the pope should marry couples who have been living together and have children out of wedlock<\/a>?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>These questions\u2013which really *are* matters of prudential judgment and patient of real debate and argument\u2013are treated by many of the same Catholics who routinely invoke \u201cprudential judgment\u201d to ignore the Church as matters of settled dogma. In such cases, the failure of Cdl. Dolan and Pope Francis to do what the dogmatists demand is seen as yet another harbinger of the apocalypse.  <\/p>\n<p>Me: I think good faith cases can be made that<\/p>\n<p>a) Dolan should back out of the parade since it is no longer Catholic (and hasn\u2019t been for some time) and is merely an occasion for cheering about vaguely Irish things and getting plastered.  As a local cultural event without even a tenuous relationship to the Faith anymore, it was basically inevitable that it would reflect New York\u2019s (and let\u2019s face it, America\u2019s and the West\u2019s) embrace of homosexual acts as no big deal.  So to avoid giving the impression that the Church agrees with that, Dolan should back out.<\/p>\n<p>BUT: This being a matter of prudential judgment, I also think that the case can be made that in absenting itself from this important part of New York\u2019s cultural life, the Church is simply ceding the field rather than acting as yeast and that most non-Catholics would simply see this as Dolan hating on gays for whatever weird inexplicable reason Catholics do that stuff.  Like it or not, the acceptance of homosexual acts (bad) and homosexual persons (good) is here to stay in the West and the Church can either engage with that or retreat into the Fortress.<\/p>\n<p>Both of these are respectable cases to be made and argued in the recognition that this really *is* a matter of prudential judgment.  Yet, for the \u201cprudential judgment excuses all\u201d Right, this is being treated as a matter of self-evident \u201cwickedness\u201d (in the words of one Chicken Little demagogue) and Dolan is (there is no other word for it) <strong>threatened <\/strong>with dangerous and reckless language like \u201cDo not think the punishment visited on you will not be of the most severe sort when you die, <strong>perhaps even before you die<\/strong>, if you do not change\u201d followed by vague calls to \u201chave an Authentic Catholic uprising\u201d to a mob that may well decide to make sure Dolan <em>gets <\/em>that \u201csevere punishment\u201d Chicken Little is calling for. (That\u2019s the kind of language that very rightly gets the cops called and I hope the Archdiocese of New York does exactly that.  As Gerard Nadal truly says, Chicken Little <a href=\"http:\/\/gerardnadal.com\/2014\/09\/11\/the-authentic-catholic-uprising-of-michael-voris\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201chas crossed a line.  A very dangerous line.\u201d<\/a>) <\/p>\n<p>My point is this: For a subculture that *thrives* on ambiguity and making excuses for ignoring the Church unless \u201cSimon Peter Says\u201d with a dogmatic pronouncement we are suddenly not in prudential judgment territory at all.  When it comes to holy and sacred right wing culture war stuff, it\u2019s <em>dogma <\/em>and there is only one possible opinion.  To even consider the other side of the question marks you out as a CINO, as wicked, as not an Authentic Catholic, and as deserving \u201csevere punishment\u201d not only in the next life but (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) maybe in this one as well, if you catch my meaning, if you get my drift.<\/p>\n<p>Same with Francis.  There are cases for and against him celebrating these weddings.  Against: Appearing to give approval to fornication, etc.  In favor: Better to get married than to remain in fornication and so forth. (FWIW, I think the latter case is *obviously* the stronger one and is, in fact, done constantly as a a matter of pastoral practice anyway.)  But the point is that it really is a matter of prudential judgment and the pope is entitled to his opinion.<\/p>\n<p>But I can absolutely guarantee you that the Greatest Catholics of All Time are going to see in this prudential judgment, not a debatable case patient of differing views in good faith.  They will see yet another catastrophic disaster, evil conspiracy, etc.  Indeed, they are already panicking and convinced that the <a href=\"http:\/\/remnantnewspaper.com\/web\/index.php\/articles\/item\/915-stop-the-synod\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Synod on the Family is a Franciscan plot<\/a> to undermine TRVE Catholicism.  So again, prudential judgment is shown to have very strict limits.  It\u2019s useful when you want to kill or torture or crush weak and poor people, but the line has to be drawn at being merciful or pastoral or having contact with those outside Fortress Katolicus.<\/p>\n<p>I look forward to the day when both real docility *and* real private judgment are exercised by Catholics toward the guidance of the Church.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My reader Zippy Catholic used to note that when Progressives want to blow off Church teaching they appeal to \u201cprimacy of conscience\u201d as the All-Excusing Catchphrase. Don\u2019t like the Church\u2019s teaching on the Pelvic Issues? Voila! Primacy of Conscience excuses you from obeying or even listening to what the Church says. 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