{"id":55715,"date":"2014-11-04T11:55:14","date_gmt":"2014-11-04T18:55:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=55715"},"modified":"2014-12-28T19:46:58","modified_gmt":"2014-12-29T02:46:58","slug":"none-are-welcome-on-their-own-terms","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/none-are-welcome-on-their-own-terms.html","title":{"rendered":"None Are Welcome on Their Own Terms"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

This is the flip side of the Elton John discussion and is also, paradoxically, perfectly biblical.<\/a><\/p>\n

The way Jesus puts it is this:<\/p>\n

Now great multitudes accompanied him; and he turned and said to them, \u201cIf any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple. For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, saying, \u2018This man began to build, and was not able to finish.\u2019 Or what king, going to encounter another king in war, will not sit down first and take counsel whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? And if not, while the other is yet a great way off, he sends an embassy and asks terms of peace. So therefore, whoever of you does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.\u00a0\u00a0(Lk 14:25\u201333).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is what my good friend Zippy was at pains to stress in the discussion of Elton John and he is perfectly right, of course. \u00a0But then, so am\u00a0I. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

George MacDonald used to say, \u201cGod is easy to please, but hard to satisfy.\u201d \u00a0We should be like that too when dealing with people in the difficult process of having their lives turned upside down with an encounter with Jesus (especially converts like me, for I was a stranger in the land of Egypt once myself). \u00a0When a man who was, a few years ago, calling for the\u00a0complete ban on all religion<\/a>\u00a0is now capable of seeing that the pope is not his enemy and expressing a modicum of trust in him as a human being, that is a real step and an opportunity. \u00a0But it\u2019s a first, baby, step. \u00a0Not a last step. \u00a0Should he take other steps, as converts to the Church do, in fact, do (including gay converts<\/a>) it will be necessary, sooner or later, for him (as for all converts) to lay his personal agendas at the feet of Christ. \u00a0Meanwhile, we meet people where they are and ask of them what is possible for them, not what is impossible. \u00a0Jesus makes gigantic demands on us in the end, up to and including gruesome martyrdom for his sake. \u00a0But he starts small, with things like \u201cgive me a drink of water\u201d.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s why those five stages of intentional discipleship are so important to incorporate into our thinking. \u00a0Most of us are not the St. Paul of popular imagination, knocked off the horse and instantly converted in super-disciples. \u00a0Indeed, even St. Paul wasn\u2019t that guy. \u00a0Scripture hints that he went through his own subterranean cavern of struggles \u201ckicking against the goads\u201d of his own conscience, as he struggled with the dissonance between his life and that of the people he was persecuting. \u00a0His conversion was, like all conversions, a miracle. \u00a0But it was not the lightning bolt people think. \u00a0He spent years in the desert, thinking it over. \u00a0He had his stuff vetted by the Big Dogs in Jerusalem. \u00a0He was an abrasive enough person that the Church at Jerusalem didn\u2019t trust him and regarded him as something between an infiltrator and a Professional Catholic. \u00a0He got farmed out to the Church at Antioch where he spent a number of years learning the rope as a Catholic before he was ordained (that\u2019s what that bit in Acts 13 with the laying on of hands was about). \u00a0And he was dogged his whole life long with the accusation that he wasn\u2019t a *real* apostle like the 12 (you can see him rankling at this in his Second Letter to the Corinthians). \u00a0And, indeed, he himself made clear that his conversion was ongoing all his life long, \u201cpressing on\u201d to the upward call in Christ.<\/p>\n

God is easy to please, but hard to satisfy. \u00a0He will not be happy till we are completely happy.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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