{"id":55919,"date":"2014-11-19T00:22:16","date_gmt":"2014-11-19T07:22:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=55919"},"modified":"2014-12-28T19:46:38","modified_gmt":"2014-12-29T02:46:38","slug":"cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html","title":{"rendered":"Cardinal George has some questions for Pope Francis"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cruxnow.com\/church\/2014\/11\/16\/what-americas-ratzinger-would-like-to-ask-pope-francis\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Very reasonable ones,<\/a> it seems to me, and I\u2019d love to be a fly on the wall at that conversation.<\/p>\n<p>One reader informs me that I divide the whole discussion of this papacy into Francis-hating Reactionaries vs. All is Well.<\/p>\n<p>Nope. There are perfectly legitimate things to wonder about with this pope as with any pope. The problem is that, in St. Blog\u2019s, most people are wondering. They are convinced they Know. The \u201cquestions\u201d they ask are typically veiled accusations, not requests for information. They ask questions, not to find things out, but to keep from finding things out: \u201cWhy does Francis keep assisting the enemies of the faith in the destruction of the Church? I think we know why!\u201d Heck not a few of them no longer bother couch things as pseudo-question. As one of the many lunatics freaking out about Francis remarked the other day, \u201cWe have five years before we lose the Mass.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>George demonstrates what it looks like to ask questions in order to find things out. He does not proceed from the assumption that the mission is to gather evidence in a heresy trial or, worse still, from the conviction that a guilty verdict has now been obtained and that we are merely in the process of gather firewood for the auto-de-fe. He talks as though Francis might actually have something to teach us.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of which, Ramesh Ponnuru asks a very reasonable question:<\/p>\n<div class=\"content clearfix\" style=\"color: #292f33;\">\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"permalink-header\">\n<p><a class=\"account-group js-account-group js-action-profile js-user-profile-link js-nav decorated-link\" style=\"color: #0084b4;\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RameshPonnuru\" data-user-id=\"305189255\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong class=\"fullname js-action-profile-name show-popup-with-id\" style=\"font-weight: bold; color: #292f33;\" data-aria-label-part=\"\">Ramesh Ponnuru<span class=\"Icon Icon--verified Icon--small\" style=\"color: #88c9f9;\"><span class=\"u-hiddenVisually\">Verified account<\/span><\/span><\/strong>\u200f<span class=\"username js-action-profile-name\" style=\"color: #8899a6;\" data-aria-label-part=\"\"><s style=\"color: #b1bbc3;\">@<\/s><b>RameshPonnuru<\/b><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"js-tweet-text tweet-text\" lang=\"en\" style=\"font-weight: 300; color: #292f33;\" data-aria-label-part=\"0\">Tell me again why traditionalists are supposed to oppose this guy? <a class=\"twitter-timeline-link decorated-link\" dir=\"ltr\" style=\"color: #0084b4;\" title=\"http:\/\/www.catholicherald.co.uk\/news\/2014\/11\/17\/full-text-pope-franciss-opening-address-to-humanum-conference\/\" href=\"http:\/\/t.co\/2MrVLH7bXz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-expanded-url=\"http:\/\/www.catholicherald.co.uk\/news\/2014\/11\/17\/full-text-pope-franciss-opening-address-to-humanum-conference\/\"><span class=\"invisible\">http:\/\/www.<\/span><span class=\"js-display-url\">catholicherald.co.uk\/news\/2014\/11\/1<\/span><span class=\"invisible\">7\/full-text-pope-franciss-opening-address-to-humanum-conference\/<\/span><span class=\"tco-ellipsis\"><span class=\"invisible\">\u00a0<\/span>\u2026<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"stream-item-footer\" style=\"color: #292f33;\">\n<div class=\"ProfileTweet-actionList u-cf js-actions\">\n<div class=\"ProfileTweet-action ProfileTweet-action--reply\">It\u2019s a question that only gets more pointed when we discover that it turns out Francis is not just about to make abortion and gay \u201cmarriage\u201d the eighth and ninth sacraments <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/news\/pope-francis-blasts-abortion-euthanasia-as-sins-against-god-70913\/#.VGeIrWoGR-9.facebook\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">but that he is, (duh!) Catholic<\/a>.<\/div>\n<div class=\"ProfileTweet-action ProfileTweet-action--reply\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"ProfileTweet-action ProfileTweet-action--reply\">If your response to this is joy, you are on the right track. If your response is relief, may I suggest that you need to ask God, \u201cIncrease my faith\u201d since there has never been any actual, real question of Francis\u2019 fidelity to the Church and all such fears are located, not in any objective reality but are *entirely* within the hearts and minds of people who fear Francis is heterodox. \u00a0If your response is \u201cFrancis is saying stuff to deceive faithful Catholics\u00a0while he secretly labors to destroy the Church\u201d then consider the wisdom of C.S. Lewis:<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one\u2019s first feeling, \u2018Thank God, even they aren\u2019t quite so bad as that,\u2019 or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies are as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally we shall insist on seeing everything \u2014 God and our friends and ourselves included \u2014 as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Very reasonable ones, it seems to me, and I\u2019d love to be a fly on the wall at that conversation. One reader informs me that I divide the whole discussion of this papacy into Francis-hating Reactionaries vs. All is Well. Nope. There are perfectly legitimate things to wonder about with this pope as with any [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":92,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[650,374],"class_list":["post-55919","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-na","tag-pope-francis"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Cardinal George has some questions for Pope Francis<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Very reasonable ones, it seems to me, and I&#039;d love to be a fly on the wall at that conversation. One reader informs me that I divide the whole discussion\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Cardinal George has some questions for Pope Francis\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Very reasonable ones, it seems to me, and I&#039;d love to be a fly on the wall at that conversation. One reader informs me that I divide the whole discussion\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Catholic and Enjoying It!\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2014-11-19T07:22:16+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2014-12-29T02:46:38+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Mark Shea\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Mark Shea\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"3 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html\",\"name\":\"Cardinal George has some questions for Pope Francis\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2014-11-19T07:22:16+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2014-12-29T02:46:38+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/c1a9ac1e557d3c626974fd6692818ad5\"},\"description\":\"Very reasonable ones, it seems to me, and I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that conversation. One reader informs me that I divide the whole discussion\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Cardinal George has some questions for Pope Francis\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/\",\"name\":\"Catholic and Enjoying It!\",\"description\":\"Mark Shea&#039;s Blog: So That No Thought of Mine, No Matter How Stupid, Should Ever Go Unpublished Again!\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/c1a9ac1e557d3c626974fd6692818ad5\",\"name\":\"Mark Shea\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f287911f45adc932ad24ddbae3597ed5?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f287911f45adc932ad24ddbae3597ed5?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Mark Shea\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/author\/markshea\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Cardinal George has some questions for Pope Francis","description":"Very reasonable ones, it seems to me, and I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that conversation. One reader informs me that I divide the whole discussion","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Cardinal George has some questions for Pope Francis","og_description":"Very reasonable ones, it seems to me, and I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that conversation. One reader informs me that I divide the whole discussion","og_url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html","og_site_name":"Catholic and Enjoying It!","article_published_time":"2014-11-19T07:22:16+00:00","article_modified_time":"2014-12-29T02:46:38+00:00","author":"Mark Shea","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Mark Shea","Est. reading time":"3 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html","name":"Cardinal George has some questions for Pope Francis","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#website"},"datePublished":"2014-11-19T07:22:16+00:00","dateModified":"2014-12-29T02:46:38+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/c1a9ac1e557d3c626974fd6692818ad5"},"description":"Very reasonable ones, it seems to me, and I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that conversation. One reader informs me that I divide the whole discussion","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/11\/cardinal-george-has-some-questions-for-pope-francis.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Cardinal George has some questions for Pope Francis"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/","name":"Catholic and Enjoying It!","description":"Mark Shea&#039;s Blog: So That No Thought of Mine, No Matter How Stupid, Should Ever Go Unpublished Again!","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/c1a9ac1e557d3c626974fd6692818ad5","name":"Mark Shea","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f287911f45adc932ad24ddbae3597ed5?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f287911f45adc932ad24ddbae3597ed5?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"Mark Shea"},"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/author\/markshea"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/55919","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/92"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=55919"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/55919\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=55919"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=55919"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=55919"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}