{"id":56371,"date":"2014-12-18T14:04:51","date_gmt":"2014-12-18T21:04:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/?p=56371"},"modified":"2014-12-18T14:04:51","modified_gmt":"2014-12-18T21:04:51","slug":"todays-desperate-lies-from-torture-defenders","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/markshea\/2014\/12\/todays-desperate-lies-from-torture-defenders.html","title":{"rendered":"Today&#8217;s Desperate Lies from Torture Defenders"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>In the ongoing effort of \u201cprolife\u201d Torture Defenders to ignore the fact that, among other things, we anally raped, froze to death, beat, stood on the broken legs of, and threatened to murder the wives and children of prisoners, said defenders insist on perseverating over the now dead as a doornail question: \u201cWaterboarding: Is it Really Torture?\u201d \u00a0It\u2019s like obsessing over disproving an old charge that Himmler was cruel to animals after the camps have been opened. \u00a0The pretense that defining torture is impossible (so let\u2019s maintain the status quo) is\u00a0all Catholic Torture Defenders have had in their rhetorical arsenal for 10 years. \u00a0Now that\u2019s gone (since the CIA itself called what they did torture). \u00a0But, in their desperation, Catholic torture defenders stick with the only thing they know and go on making excuses for waterboarding as though it makes any difference now.<\/p>\n<p>Two of the most beloved lies told to that end are as follows:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>We waterboard our own troops in SERE training, so that proves it\u2019s not torture.<\/li>\n<li>If it does not result in death and leaves no permanent physical injury, it\u2019s not torture and therefore not gravely and intrinsically evil.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>These lies are curiously related. \u00a0To the first, the reply is easily made:\u00a0SERE training is done in order to build our troops up and strengthen them. Waterboarding prisoners is done in order to tear them down and destroy them. You might as well say that a man making love to his wife is the same thing as rape since the physical actions are the same. <\/p>\n<p>Not coincidentally, the second lie turns out to be an excellent defense of rape.<\/p>\n<p>That it should come to *this* for \u201cprolife\u201d Catholics. <\/p>\n<p>Torture Defenders: Why die on this hill?  Repent.  Believe the good news.  Confess your sin and Jesus will certainly forgive it. <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the ongoing effort of \u201cprolife\u201d Torture Defenders to ignore the fact that, among other things, we anally raped, froze to death, beat, stood on the broken legs of, and threatened to murder the wives and children of prisoners, said defenders insist on perseverating over the now dead as a doornail question: \u201cWaterboarding: Is it [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":92,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[390,186],"class_list":["post-56371","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-lies-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them","tag-torture-is-evil"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - 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