{"id":10301,"date":"2012-04-13T09:30:45","date_gmt":"2012-04-13T13:30:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/mercynotsacrifice\/?p=1733"},"modified":"2014-07-17T14:35:31","modified_gmt":"2014-07-17T19:35:31","slug":"rick-warren-economic-principles-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/mercynotsacrifice\/2012\/04\/13\/rick-warren-economic-principles-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Considering Rick Warren&#8217;s Economic Principles"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>America\u2019s most famous megachurch pastor Rick Warren has gotten backlash in the <a href=\"http:\/\/prospect.org\/article\/rick-warren-and-gospel-supply-side-jesus\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Prospect<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/story\/2012\/04\/09\/1081855\/-Rick-Warren-Is-An-Affront-To-G-d\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Daily Kos<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/rev-susan-russell\/rick-warren-politics_b_1416340.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Huffington Post<\/a>, and other places in response to an interview with ABC\u2019s Jake Tapper where he shared his views on President Obama\u2019s campaign for economic \u201cfairness\u201d in tax policy and how the government should help the poor. For what it\u2019s worth, Warren gives 90% of his income away to charity and his church does a lot of ministries with the poor in their community. There\u2019s no question that Warren is committed to helping the poor, though he disagrees with liberals as to <em>who<\/em> should help the poor and <em>how<\/em>. The question is whether Warren\u2019s ideological presumptions square with reality and Biblical principles.<!--more-->Here is the excerpt of his interview that has gotten so many people fired up:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Well, certainly the Bible says we are to care about the poor.\u00a0 There\u2019s over 2,000 versus in the Bible about the poor.\u00a0 And God says that those who care about the poor, God will care about them and God will bless them.\u00a0 But there\u2019s a fundamental question on the meaning of \u201cfairness.\u201d\u00a0 Does fairness mean everybody makes the same amount of money? Or does fairness mean everybody gets the opportunity to make the same amount of money? I do not believe in wealth redistribution, I believe in wealth creation\u2026 The only way to get people out of poverty is J-O-B-S. Create jobs. To create wealth, not to subsidize wealth. When you subsidize people, you create the dependency.\u00a0 You \u2014 you rob them of dignity. There are a lot of negative things that happen to us.\u00a0 Rather, we should be focusing on wealth creation and job creation, in my opinion\u2026<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>First, regarding the question of \u201cfairness,\u201d Warren draws a distinction between whether fairness means that everyone gets<em> paid the same<\/em> or has the<em> same opportunity<\/em>. This seems like a reasonable distinction to make, and it would be fair if President Obama were pushing for garbage collectors to get paid the same thing that nuclear physicists make. But actually what Obama calls \u201cfairness\u201d is for people who make most of their income through capital gains to pay the same tax rate as people whose income is all salary. Because the long-term capital gains rate is 15% and the highest income tax rate is 35%, the wealthiest people who make most of their money passively through investments end up paying much lower tax rates than middle-class people who earn most of their money through wages.<\/p>\n<p>The justification for having a lower capital gains rate has typically been to assert that lower taxes on the wealthy create more jobs. This has been the gospel truth for thirty years in the ideological movement started by Ronald Reagan, but it wasn\u2019t the assumption when Republican Dwight Eisenhower was president in the 1950\u2019s. He presided over a top margin tax rate of 90% (mind-boggling, in the height of McCarthy-era anti-Communism), and the economy actually greatly expanded under Eisenhower. The Dow Jones more than doubled from 288 to 634. It was an era in which jobs were created by public infrastructure projects such as the interstate highway system. The middle class has never been stronger than it was in the 1950\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>Next, Rick Warren writes that he\u2019s in favor of \u201cwealth creation and job creation,\u201d inferring a casual relation between them, again the assumption being that the more money rich people have, the more jobs they will create. The economic \u201crecovery,\u201d however, has demonstrated a pretty obvious rupture of the connection between wealth creation and job creation. I\u2019m no economist, but the Dow Jones reached 14,164.53 in October, 2007, before the crash, and it has since rebounded to the low 13,000\u2019s. So to the degree that a stock market industrial average can reflect this, our economy\u2019s wealth has almost been recovered. But the jobs have not returned. 3.6 million jobs have been added to the economy since early 2010 in contrast to 8.8 million jobs that were lost in the recession and 4.7 million new entrants to the labor force, which amounts to about 10 million more people out of work than were out of work before the recession.<\/p>\n<p>Thus our economy is now very obviously<em> creating wealth without creating jobs<\/em>. If Obama were a dictator presiding over a state-run economy, it would be reasonable to blame him for the failure of the recovery to regenerate jobs, but his policies have not stopped the regeneration of wealth that\u2019s supposed to automatically result in new jobs. So it doesn\u2019t seem unreasonable for him to ask whether low capital gains tax rates are really benefiting the overall economy when they seem to be creating wealth without jobs. Perhaps Eisenhower had a better approach.<\/p>\n<p>Next I wanted to look at Rick Warren\u2019s assertion that government shouldn\u2019t \u201csubsidize\u201d poor people and \u201ccreate dependency.\u201d I agree with this basic principle as heartily as I agree that garbage collectors and nuclear physicists shouldn\u2019t get the same salary: people shouldn\u2019t get blank checks for sitting around being lazy. It\u2019s reasonable in the abstract. The question is whether this is an accurate assessment of what government programs actually do or a recycled talking point from the time before Clinton\u2019s welfare reform did away with blank checks for the poor.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not sure how offering free health coverage through Medicaid to poor children creates dependency. What about Head Start, the free preschool program for poor kids who can\u2019t afford paid preschool? That seems like it\u2019s more about equalizing opportunities than giving blank checks. I ran an unemployment support group last year at my church in which a woman was collecting government unemployment benefits. She had to file weekly reports showing that she had applied for at least three jobs in order to stay qualified. It seemed to me like it was geared toward keeping people motivated rather than creating dependency. I suppose someone could argue that food stamps subsidize poor people, but I\u2019ve never known anybody who has used them who didn\u2019t also have a job that was simply insufficient to pay all their living expenses.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I want to consider Rick Warren\u2019s opposition to \u201cwealth redistribution.\u201d It seems like a completely un-American concept, since private property is so integral to our notion of freedom. How can it possibly be right for the government to take what I\u2019ve earned and give it to someone else? Here\u2019s the problem: <em>it\u2019s totally Biblical<\/em>, that is if we take seriously the same Old Testament book that\u2019s so important to social conservatives on a different issue \u2014 Leviticus. In Leviticus 25, God calls for the Israelites to have a year of jubilee every 50 years in which all property that has been sold would be returned to its original owner (vv. 25-28) and people whose poverty had forced them to sell themselves into slavery would be set free (vv. 39-40). Every family would then start over with their property having been reset to equal levels. The foundation for these commands is verse 23 in which God claims sole proprietorship over the land of Israel: \u201cThe land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you reside in my land as foreigners and strangers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>If we followed Leviticus 25\u2019s prescriptions for wealth redistribution, it would basically amount to having an estate tax of 100% imposed on the population every 50 years with everyone given back the same amount of wealth afterward to start from scratch. In other words, it would be \u201cfairness\u201d in precisely the form to which Rick Warren objects. Since we live in a completely different historical context than Leviticus, it\u2019s reasonable to say that some of its commandments can no longer be feasibly applied today, but we should at least retain the spirit of them. If all property belongs to God and we are all His tenants and stewards in everything, how should this shape our attitude about whether we should be taxed a lower percentage of our passively received investment profit than other people pay for the wages they earn?<\/p>\n<p>Many bloggers have unfairly cast Rick Warren as being opposed to helping the poor. It\u2019s pretty clear from the ministries of his church and his personal philanthropy that Warren believes in doing things on the grassroots level to help the poor. He just doesn\u2019t think it\u2019s the federal government\u2019s role. That\u2019s a fine debate to have, as long as Warren conforms his abstract ideological principles to the economic realities that are manifesting themselves around us today. And it might be time for Warren to spend \u201cforty days in the word\u201d of Leviticus 25.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>America\u2019s most famous megachurch pastor Rick Warren has gotten backlash in the Prospect, Daily Kos, Huffington Post, and other places in response to an interview with ABC\u2019s Jake Tapper where he shared his views on President Obama\u2019s campaign for economic \u201cfairness\u201d in tax policy and how the government should help the poor. 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