{"id":4962,"date":"2009-10-21T00:00:35","date_gmt":"2009-10-21T07:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/muslimahmediawatch.org\/?p=4962"},"modified":"2009-10-21T00:00:35","modified_gmt":"2009-10-21T07:00:35","slug":"whose-revolution-critiquing-seyran-ates-and-her-islamic-sexual-revolution","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/mmw\/2009\/10\/whose-revolution-critiquing-seyran-ates-and-her-islamic-sexual-revolution\/","title":{"rendered":"Whose Revolution? Critiquing Seyran Ates and her Islamic Sexual Revolution"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>The calls of lawyer, activist, and writer Seyran Ates for a sexual revolution in the heterogeneous Muslim world may surprise many, particularly when the movement is commonly associated with free love, hippies, and public nudity. In a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.spiegel.de\/international\/europe\/0,1518,654704,00.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">recent interview with German magazine <em>Spiegel<\/em><\/a>, Ates begins with discussing what she means by this and her experiences that inspired her new book, <em>Islam Needs a Sexual Revolution<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Things went downhill immediately, when Ates said that she based the term \u201csexual revolution\u201d on<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026Wilhelm Reich and his book about the sexual revolution. I believe that the Islamic world must grapple with the consequences of rigid sexual morals, not unlike the way, as he describes, the Soviet Union dealt with its own circumstances.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Naming <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wilhelm_Reich\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wilhelm Reich<\/a> as an inspiration for her cause is to me quite problematic. A disciple of Freud, and a serial wife-cheater, Reich is known for his view that sexual repression is the cause of authoritative family and societal structures, and his study was borne out of his criticism against the fascist movement during his time in Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi party. I don\u2019t know about you, but seeing similarities between conservatism in Muslim communities and Hitler\u2019s regime strikes me as a little essentialist and far-fetched on Ates\u2019 part\u2013and that\u2019s putting it kindly.<\/p>\n<p>As much as I welcome a more permissive attitude towards sexuality in Muslim communities, I doubt that a revolution can occur out of thin air. In the West, the impetus for the sexual revolution came as a reaction from multiple directions: scientific (the birth control pill), political (the social paranoia of the Cold War), social (the rise of the women\u2019s liberation movement), and economic (more on this below). This is where I have problems with what Ates means by a sexual revolution. It is an ethnocentric construct that the Western world had a monopoly over. And if we use the Western sexual revolution as a model, then simply place an Islamic label on it, we play by rules that were hardly faith-based to begin with.<\/p>\n<p>Further, it\u2019s about re-asserting economic privileges that few (in 1960s America\/Europe) had. Translate that to the Muslim world (in the East and West) today, even fewer people will reap the joys of the revolution. Why? Having a fulfilling sex life takes time and money\u2013raising children, hire nannies, afford contraceptives or divorces\u2013some things many in the middle class can enjoy. It should not be just about access to sexual activity that Ates purports as a revolution, but about making economic sense out of sex. The main reason why young people are less interested in marriage is because it\u2019s expensive.<\/p>\n<p>Then Ates mentions prophets as role models:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>SPIEGEL:<\/strong> Muhammad had a dozen wives. Is he a role model?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ates:<\/strong> When an Arab man needs a justification for having several wives, he says: It was the same with Muhammad.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SPIEGEL:<\/strong> Christian men don\u2019t have that excuse.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ates:<\/strong> No, but it\u2019s a shame that Christians worship such an asexual man. Muslims are in a better position, in that respect, but this need of the man to have several women, legitimized by Muhammad, has led to a hidden and extreme sexualizing of Islam.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Saying that Jesus is less of a role model than Muhammad because he was seen as asexual is quite offensive. Being a single prophet does not necessarily qualify as being asexual. But most importantly, sexual freedoms include being both sexual and asexual (celibate). Sex is often overrated, while asexuality (or lacking sexual desire) is viewed as being less human\u2013utter nonsense, in my opinion.<\/p>\n<p>Ates asserts that the Muslim world to a large extent is monolithic, that Muslims the world over can relate to each other in all matters sexual. And, yes, liberalism is not our best known trait. Some live under extremely repressive regimes and others endure conservative laws and attitudes to a less extreme degree.<\/p>\n<p>But within many Muslim communities, class disparity can mean a difference in sexual mores as different as night and day. This goes back to the works of Reich, who saw that people from a working class background were the most sexually repressed and were most likely to obey authoritative regimes. By overlapping Ates and Reich\u2019s arguments, one must assume that all Muslims are economically oppressed for a sexual revolution to happen which in my opinion is an unfair assumption.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t believe that a revolution can take place overnight, or through massive protests that Ates envisions. A sexual revolution in a religious context cannot happen without first planting some seeds of change. These seeds can come in the form of faith-based dialogue and rights-based legislation. Also, better economic conditions mean that people can make better marital choices. It seems clear that Seyran Ates takes her cause very personally, but in the interview she does not acknowledge enough the social and moral impact of sexual permissiveness that she is promoting, which is really the main concern of everyone involved in a \u201csexual revolution\u201d. This remains a big question mark for me, and I will watch carefully in the future for a sexual revolution spearheaded by Ates.<\/p>\n<p><em>Muslimah Media Watch thanks Mohani Niza for the tip.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Editor\u2019s Note: Stay tuned tomorrow for <a href=\"http:\/\/muslimahmediawatch.org\/2009\/10\/the-revolution-will-not-be-sexualized-more-on-seyran-ates\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Yusra\u2019s viewpoint <\/a>on Seyran Ates and her sexual revolution!<\/strong><br>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The calls of lawyer, activist, and writer Seyran Ates for a sexual revolution in the heterogeneous Muslim world may surprise many, particularly when the movement is commonly associated with free love, hippies, and public nudity. 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