{"id":669,"date":"2010-02-08T08:10:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-08T08:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/monkeymind\/2010\/02\/wanted-alive-or-dead\/"},"modified":"2011-11-01T15:07:22","modified_gmt":"2011-11-01T19:07:22","slug":"wanted-alive-or-dead","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/monkeymind\/2010\/02\/wanted-alive-or-dead.html","title":{"rendered":"Wanted Alive or Dead"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_niPwTW3rBbU\/S3AVZi7oN9I\/AAAAAAAADEc\/-xGqGNYptEs\/s1600-h\/coffin\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px;float: right;cursor: pointer;width: 213px;height: 320px\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_niPwTW3rBbU\/S3AVZi7oN9I\/AAAAAAAADEc\/-xGqGNYptEs\/s320\/coffin\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a><br>Sadly, there is no common <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Buddhist<\/a> calendar in the West. And here we have an example of the confusion that follows this lack of conformity.<\/p>\n<p>Today together with the 15th of this month is observed in parts of East Asia as Nirvana Day, a time to recall Gautama Siddhartha, the Buddha of history\u2019s death.<\/p>\n<p>The records of his life together with his teachings were all written down in languages he did not speak hundreds of years after he died.<\/p>\n<p>So there are no certain details, even these dates are up for grabs, although or perhaps nonetheless a lively and engaging and at least for me an utterly fascinating personality emerges out of the texts, making some attempt at marking his life important\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Unlike the death of Jesus which at some point becomes the reason for his life, the Buddha\u2019s death is natural enough, and mostly stays that way even in the hands of hagiographers. At around eighty years of age he eats something called \u201cpig\u2019s delight\u201d (the wars between vegetarians and others around that term never end\u2026) he becomes ill and dies.<\/p>\n<p>The traditions say he gave a good <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abuddhistlibrary.com\/Buddhism\/C%20-%20Zen\/Sutras\/The%20Great%20Parinirvana%20Sutra\/The%20Great%20Parinirvana%20Sutra.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">long sermon<\/a> before his death. (As a preacher I do appreciate this\u2026)<\/p>\n<p>But the text this day evokes for me is, perhaps naturally enough, in fact a Zen one.<\/p>\n<p>In the <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Biyanlu<\/span>, the <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Blue Cliff Record<\/span>, case fifty-five, \u201cDaowu\u2019s Condolences\u201d we hear how \u201cDaowu and Jianyuan went to a house to express condolences. Jianyuan rapped on the coffin and asked, \u2018Living or dead?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDaowu said, \u2018I can\u2019t say either living or dead.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJianyuan asked, \u2018Why can\u2019t you say?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDaowu said, \u2018I can\u2019t say! I can\u2019t say!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOn the way home, Jianyuan said, \u2018Your Reverence, please tell me right away. If you don\u2019t, I shall hit you.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDaowu said, \u2018If you like, I\u2019ll allow you to hit me, but I\u2019ll never say.\u2019 Jianyuan hit him.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLater, after Daowu passed away, Jianyuan went to Shishuang and told him this story. Shishuang said, \u2018Alive, I can\u2019t say! Dead, I can\u2019t say!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJianyuan asked, \u2018Why can\u2019t you say?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cShishuang said, \u2018I can\u2019t say! I can\u2019t say!\u2019<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWith these words, Jianyuan was enlightened\u201d*<\/p>\n<p>For those not familiar with koan literature this is perhaps a bit confusing. Something about death. But obviously also about something else, something that perhaps transcends life and death.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe.<\/p>\n<p>Daowu is one of the greats. He features in another of my favorite koans, collected in the <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Hongzhi Zhengjue<\/span>, the  <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Book of Serenity<\/span>, \u201cWho is Sick?\u201d with the lovely question \u201cWhy is it that Quanyin (the bodhisattva of compassion) has so many eyes and hands,\u201d and the response \u201cIt\u2019s like reaching behind in your sleep and adjusting your pillow.\u201d He pops up a few other places, as well\u2026<\/p>\n<p>In the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Dharma<\/a> Daowu is a great uncle to our Soto way, his Dharma sibling Dongshan helped to form the school. And I feel in the sweetness of the encounter one can detect a family resemblance here.<\/p>\n<p>But within that sweetness there is a relentlessness. He puts the real question to us. What about death? What about life? Why does the Buddha die? I suspect more importantly, why do I die?<\/p>\n<p>I was talking with some people the other day about why they entered the Zen way. I noticed pretty much all those who had been around a while, more than a couple of years, they had some question about sickness and death, some burning sense of dissatisfaction, of anxiety, of anxiousness in the face of the rush of life and death.<\/p>\n<p>It drove them to the pit of practice, to not turning away, to really, really looking into their hearts. They had become real people of Zen.<\/p>\n<p>So, I suggest, the question in this koan is the question of Zen.<\/p>\n<p>Now there is something to notice in this little conversation and its follow up. Here the Zen dharma takes a rather different tack than saying the death itself is the point or giving a long sermon on the way out the door.<\/p>\n<p>It negate neither, but doesn\u2019t spend any time there, either.<\/p>\n<p>Instead we get, \u201cI can\u2019t say.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I like to make much of the word agnostic. As old Thomas Huxley meant when he coined it, I don\u2019t know, and, and I care deeply.<\/p>\n<p>This is no passive I can\u2019t say. This is a can\u2019t say that involves every atom in one\u2019s being.<\/p>\n<p>There are all sorts of corollaries to this can\u2019t say on the Zen way. Only don\u2019t know. Beginner\u2019s Mind.<\/p>\n<p>Not knowing is most intimate.<\/p>\n<p>I hope you notice. There is a presentation here. And there is an invitation.<\/p>\n<p>It is in fact a moment that Jianyuan missed. An easy enough miss. In life as we live it so much is happening, so much hurt, so much joy, so much dashing about here and there.<\/p>\n<p>What? Did you say something?<\/p>\n<p>But, also in the case as we receive it, there\u2019s a second chance.<\/p>\n<p>Thank goodness for second chances. And third. And fourth\u2026<\/p>\n<p>And in that second encounter an elaboration of the point to help.<\/p>\n<p>Alive, I can\u2019t say. Dead, I can\u2019t say.<\/p>\n<p>What would it look like if we just set down our idea of death? What would it look like if we let go of our idea of life?<\/p>\n<p>What then?<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Blind Boys From Alabama-Amazing Grace\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3ZJ-kLKut9E?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p>* Joan Sutherland &amp; John Tarrant\u2019s revision of Koun Yamada &amp; Robert Aitken\u2019s translation.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/33904114-7865498509059971643?l=monkeymindonline.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sadly, there is no common Buddhist calendar in the West. 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