{"id":3930,"date":"2018-12-18T01:29:43","date_gmt":"2018-12-18T06:29:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/mormontherapist\/?p=3930"},"modified":"2018-12-18T01:32:08","modified_gmt":"2018-12-18T06:32:08","slug":"witnessing-for-our-kiwi-mormon-page-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/mormontherapist\/2018\/12\/witnessing-for-our-kiwi-mormon-page-5.html","title":{"rendered":"Witnessing for our Kiwi Mormon &#8211; Page 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div dir=\"auto\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-3948\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/153\/2018\/12\/16114846_10208856299901011_3216547253008713101_n-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\">Continued\u2026<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">The following are the \u201cwitnesses\u201d that have been written in behalf of Gina Colvin, who is being summoned to a disciplinary court on December 20, 2018. If you\u2019re interested in submitting a witness\u2026 please share with me at nhelferparker@gmail.com. I will continue to update\u2026 or create further posts as I receive them. I will keep blog posts to about 1500 words\u2026 that\u2019s why there will be more than one \u201cpage.\u201d<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">Gina Colvin, you are in my heart night and day.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">You stood at the margins and taught and comforted people in the margins. You stepped into the water at the margins. The book of our sacred peoplehood tells us the name for this way of being is \u201cMormon.\u201d In that rejected name, we are together, and we will not let you go. The violence of this world\u2013the violence that hates indigenous people and indigenous women\u2013put you in a cruel and deadly place when you were young, and good <span class=\"text_exposed_show\">hearted Mormon people came and stood at the door and called your name and fished you out. Mormon people for a time gave you a place to rest and repair and begin to recollect yourself (even your Maori self) so you could do the work this life holds for you. Look at the beauty, power, brilliance, courage, and generosity you have made of your life. When I light my candles on 12\/20, I\u2019ll be thinking of the path ahead for you\u2013your feet beautiful upon the mountains\u2013and I believe can see its shape and it is good and powerful and all is well.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">Joanna Brooks<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">I can\u2019t stop thinking about Gina and her impending church discipline. The thing I keep coming back to is this: if you knew her, you couldn\u2019t excommunicate her. You wouldn\u2019t want to. You would know she is among the very best of us. Because she is.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">I\u2019ve been lucky enough to chat with @Gina_Colvin on podcasts, like this one <a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/l.facebook.com\/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.athoughtfulfaith.org%2Fmothers-milk-poems-in-church-of-heavenly-mother-rachel-hunt-steenblik%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR2GSRaUAtb5TUQuZOknCaCfN40i5vF4vXapnLa5sN0dNofH76IEEk-m63o&amp;h=AT05gNw_TQ7syPiMDdLTczpNJkdMpL56golqEaxctc6IVB98wHIeKpaAcc9PiLZYdqjvFiYxsotQaHLOmxxthfsdJGdYMIQBupgSv-ayE3rrOYkiDaL1A_YbRWAb-sHAr1hbl7dxYjh3HGh36uwIVI5R1k9YLgjp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-ft='{\"tn\":\"-U\"}' data-lynx-mode=\"origin\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/\/www.athoughtfulfaith.org\/mothers-milk-poems-in-chu\u2026\/<\/a> \u2026 and this one <a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/l.facebook.com\/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.athoughtfulfaith.org%2Fin-sacred-defiance-a-reflection-on-the-womens-march%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1nbe9HRXTODo5ZZRV9D8yB6cKQH6xx4LcAYsbcscvrrTBMp2rP-sPbPaw&amp;h=AT2S41wigVjf5VtbHuByMIPstLceZkMnOF3qxQ6Pq2uqAgwJ4MFMbhQSDLerl1id-RCgqTRDg3BS-I2VlYYCC8hkAmHIk5V9r_7geZtCwaAIhtut8O8T-WI0nOvx9N36JKllAI8NPgLlHnaGxBLqhK4C-v8yHx_l\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-ft='{\"tn\":\"-U\"}' data-lynx-mode=\"origin\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/\/www.athoughtfulfaith.org\/in-sacred-defiance-a-refl\u2026\/<\/a> \u2026, and in rooms and woods in Utah, and Colorado, and New York, and Pennsylvania. She knows my babies. She loved my babies. She loved me and has ministered to me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">On the most recent of these instances, she brought her own minister, Meagan, who was herself a gift to those of us gathered from the Mormon feminist community. She taught us with grace and sat with us in groups and one on one and asked us where God was for us. Then she listened and held our hands while she prayed for us.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">I wrote this poem this summer when I sat in a room with Gina and listened:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cLament\u201d<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Gina knows the Mother,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">knows the women<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">standing outside gates<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">crying, lamenting across<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">large walls.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">She says, \u201cName it.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Name it. Again and<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">again and again.\u201d<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Name the Mother.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Name the lament.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Name the wall.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cSay it until they<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">can\u2019t ignore it. <\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Until they listen.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Rachel Hunt Steenblik<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">Bishop Shaw, <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">We will never meet as I live on the other side of the world in Alabama, USA, but I write in support of my friend and inspirational voice Gina Colvin. \u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">I am an active, endowed, returned missionary, temple married member of the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>LDS Church<\/a> and have been greatly inspired by Gina\u2019s public podcasts and discipleship. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">She and the guests she interviews on A Thoughtful Faith help inspire me to be a more moral person \u00a0and to increase my spiritual connection to God. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">I have been in disciplinary councils of women as a ward clerk and I know the pressure you face as a bishop to attempt to discern what God wants you to do in the light of Church policy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">First I plead with you to listen with an open mind and heart to Gina\u2019s podcasts. All of them before you proceed with the council. \u00a0If you only have a summary provided by the Strengthening Church Members Committee in Salt Lake, you don\u2019t and can\u2019t know the honesty and integrity and faith of Gina without yourself listening and engaging in the issues and profound faith she brings to discuss. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">A simple unexamined faith is not what God prepares us for nor is it close to divinity; rather faith that abides thru knowledge of complexity in thoughtfulness is what transforms us to the type of disciple who is not afraid of truth and real evidence, and complexity in a faith walk. \u00a0She encourages people in their faith. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">Understand that as a man and disciplining her, you don\u2019t understand what it is like to be a woman in the church and and serious misunderstanding occurs. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">Let her be. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #666699;\">Tim Birt<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Stake president, Bishop Shaw and others: \u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">I would like to write an appeal for Gina Colvin and be a witness of how she has influenced me. I ask you to be compassionate and understanding \u00a0and open your mind to the influence Gina has on her friends and readers.\u00a0 Gina Colvin has a strong testimony of Christ and his church that radiates to others.\u00a0 That\u2019s why she is so loved, not only by those who know her but those who read her posts also. Perhaps she is not perfect, but who is? She is exactly the kind of saint we need in our church\u2014self examining, thoughtful, and unafraid to challenge us and speak out. \u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">I am a college teacher and one of the courses I teach is comparative religions. In it, I have learned to love the great wisdom traditions of this world and see the beauty and truth in them. Should you disfellowship me for that? I don\u2019t think so. I know our father is able to teach truth through traditions in all countries.\u00a0 Jesus Christ\u2019s atonement is universal.\u00a0 Should Gina be disciplined and distanced from our church because she also sees truth elsewhere as well? She is a member of the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a>, and she cares about it, and works hard to help us see ourselves more honestly.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u00a0I do not have a testimony that church courts are \u201ccourts of love\u201d, but I pray that you may help me gain one by treating Gina with love and respect and affirmation.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Sincerely, <\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">MaryKaren Solomon <\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Colorado<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">President Jared Ormsby and Bishop Josh Shaw,<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">I want to write in support of my friend Gina Colvin. But the more I try writing up something, the angrier I get.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">No one with any integrity would dare act in place of Christ and condemn a woman for trying to experience the divine in her life. When you have decided that she needs to a disciplinary council you have already deemed her unworthy. That makes me angry. You don\u2019t know her, and if you did, you would know that she is anything but what you have so ignorantly decided. \u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">The reason Gina speaks up is because she loves the church. She loves the people in the church and wants it to be better. She sees the potential. Deeming someone unworthy because they call to institutional abuses, is spiritual violence. Christ did the same thing in His time, and you are condemning her for acting like Christ.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">If you excommunicate Gina, you are sending a message to thousands of LDS members like me, who agree with her.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">You are sending the message that we don\u2019t belong in the church.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">That we are not welcome there.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">That we are not wanted.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">Just be very aware that this will have broader implications than in just your small ward in New Zealand. Thousands and thousands are watching your actions.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span style=\"color: #666699;\">Becky Gomez<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Natasha Helfer Parker, LCMFT, CST can be reached at\u00a0<a class=\"ext-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.natashaparker.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-wpel-target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\">natashaparker.org<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0runs an online practice,\u00a0<a class=\"ext-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.symmetrysols.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-wpel-target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Symmetry Solutions<\/em><\/a>, which focuses on helping families and individuals with faith concerns, sexuality and mental health. She hosts the\u00a0<a class=\"ext-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mormonmentalhealth.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-wpel-target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\">Mormon Mental Health<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a class=\"ext-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mormonsexinfo.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-wpel-target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\">Mormon Sex Info<\/a>\u00a0Podcasts,\u00a0is the current president of the\u00a0<a class=\"ext-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mormonmentalhealthassoc.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-wpel-target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\">Mormon Mental Health Association<\/a>\u00a0and runs a sex education program, <a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/sextalkwithnatasha\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sex Talk with Natasha<\/a>. She has over 20 years of experience working with primarily an LDS\/Mormon clientele.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continued\u2026 The following are the \u201cwitnesses\u201d that have been written in behalf of Gina Colvin, who is being summoned to a disciplinary court on December 20, 2018. If you\u2019re interested in submitting a witness\u2026 please share with me at nhelferparker@gmail.com. I will continue to update\u2026 or create further posts as I receive them. 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