{"id":743,"date":"2012-09-24T13:26:36","date_gmt":"2012-09-24T18:26:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/mormontherapist\/?p=743"},"modified":"2012-09-24T13:33:09","modified_gmt":"2012-09-24T18:33:09","slug":"what-if-i-want-sex-to-hurt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/mormontherapist\/2012\/09\/what-if-i-want-sex-to-hurt.html","title":{"rendered":"What if I want sex to hurt?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><em>Several times throughout your blog you have said, \u201cSex should not hurt!\u201d But, my question is: What if I want it to hurt? I feel like the only way I can orgasm is if there is an element of pain involved in sexual intimacy and the rougher the better. I have several issues\/questions surrounding this:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>1) As a child I experienced sexual abuse that involved bondage, violence and forced orgasm \u2014 does this pain \u201cfetish\u201d somehow mean I liked the abuse? I can see that the two are related but have finally come to a place where I can have sex and keep it separate from old memories\/stay mentally present\/etc. and the need for pain seems to have evolved from self-punishment driven to truly pleasure-enhancing. Am I a freak for feeling this way?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>2) How does this fit into LDS teachings about how we are supposed to treat our bodies? How does it fit into what is known about normal human sexuality? Is it morally wrong to want this? Is it unhealthy to want this (provided there is no long term damage\/serious injury)?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><\/em><em>3)My kind husband feels conflicted and uncomfortable with this and is unwilling to cause me pain but also laments my lack of orgasms. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Possible directions I see are to either have a painless, orgasmless sex life; learn how to enjoy sex without pain, but how? and what if I truly do like pain?; or somehow find a way to feel pain that doesn\u2019t make my husband uncomfortable, but, again, how?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This is a great question so thanks for posting it!\u00a0 I\u2019m going to try and start answering questions in shorter format than I normally do \u2013 so I can answer more of them \u2013 so please bear with me.<\/p>\n<p>Thoughts:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>When I say sex should not hurt \u2013 I\u2019m speaking of unwanted pain which involves penile penetration into the vagina or not even able to enter the vagina.\u00a0 These sexual disorders can include anything from vaginismus, to vaginal dryness to having cysts along the vaginal wall, etc.\u00a0 Pain is a problem when it gets in the way of a woman\u2019s arousal or ability to orgasm.<\/li>\n<li>The boundaries between pain and pleasure when sexually aroused are closely intertwined \u2013 this is normal.\u00a0 Often, things we would consider painful when not aroused are not painful when we are aroused.\u00a0 This can include anything along the spectrum from nipple stimulation to BDSM (bondage, discipline, sadomasochism, masochism; also includes themes regarding dominance\/submission).<\/li>\n<li>Myths and discomfort around BDSM abound and it can be a touchy subject to discuss (i.e. your husband\u2019s response which I\u2019m sure comes from a loving place of not wanting to hurt you).\u00a0 BDSM play can range from light spanking to more intense pain via whip usage for example. \u00a0 It can also range from fantasy talk about dominant\/submissive roles to actually having someone tied up to the bed post.\u00a0 It\u2019s interesting to see the wide range of feedback <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Fifty-Shades-Grey-Book-Trilogy\/dp\/0345803485\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1348511362&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=50+shades+of+gray\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">50 Shades of Gray<\/a>\u00a0<\/em>has received for example \u2013 which actually includes a good description of a range of BDSM activity as well as relational dynamics that go along with it.<\/li>\n<li>BDSM, correctly done, is a form of sexual play which couples can choose to engage in or not in their marriages. \u00a0 By correctly done I mean: consenting adults in a healthy and trusting relationship, having a \u201csafe\u201d word where one person can have the play stop immediately if they become uncomfortable, where correct hygiene is used, and where caution is used to not cause serious bodily harm.\u00a0 If any type of coercion is used or one of the spouses is participating only out of \u201cduty\u201d then this is not a healthy use of BDSM play and should stop immediately.\u00a0 The church has been pretty clear about marital sexuality being up to the couple to navigate \u2013 as long as there doesn\u2019t involve abuse, coercion and\/or behavior which would be considered sinful (consensual partners including a third party in their sexual encounters for example).<\/li>\n<li>Sexual abuse has long term implications which can very much affect our sexual fantasies and arousal templates.\u00a0 Often, this leaves survivors of abuse confused as to the role they played in the abuse itself (\u201cDid I like it or encourage it somehow?\u201d is a very common question.).\u00a0 I want to emphasize strongly the following: whether or not you experienced orgasm during abuse, whether or not you enjoyed the attention the abuse offered, whether or not you loved the person who abused you: you are not to take one iota of responsibility for what happened to you.\u00a0 Not one!!\u00a0 And NO \u2013 you are not a freak!<\/li>\n<li>A healthy, loving marriage is actually a wonderful place to continue the healing you\u2019ve already managed.\u00a0 This can be done by exploring sexual play which involves comfortable levels of BDSM your husband could educate himself on.\u00a0 Knowing this type of play can help you, instead of harm you, might peak his interest in different options.\u00a0 It can also be done by exploring sexual play which does not include pain \u2013 so you don\u2019t end up feeling \u201cdependent\u201d on pain for orgasm.<\/li>\n<li>I would recommend some sessions with a sex therapist to help you both explore these issues at a deeper level.\u00a0 Good luck!<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Several times throughout your blog you have said, \u201cSex should not hurt!\u201d But, my question is: What if I want it to hurt? 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