{"id":11487,"date":"2012-06-16T18:30:27","date_gmt":"2012-06-16T22:30:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nakedpastor.com\/?p=11487"},"modified":"2012-06-16T18:30:27","modified_gmt":"2012-06-16T22:30:27","slug":"circumcision-and-church-attendance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nakedpastor\/2012\/06\/circumcision-and-church-attendance\/","title":{"rendered":"circumcision and church attendance"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>I would like to compare church membership with circumcision.<\/p>\n<p>I was ordained Presbyterian. I was, and still am to some extent, a fan of Reformed Theology. There was always lots of talk about infant baptism and how, like circumcision, it was a badge or sign of one\u2019s membership in the holy community, the people of God. The same applies to adult baptism. Circumcision, in the Old Testament, was a declaration of one\u2019s belonging to Israel.<\/p>\n<p>But Paul makes it clear that Abraham was a member by faith before he was circumcised. This is a key to Paul\u2019s theology. We are loved and received\u2026 we belong\u2026 before the attending signs or applied badges.<\/p>\n<p>I claim that church membership is the new badge, the new sign, that one is truly a member of the people of God. Arguments about baptism might ramble on in seminaries and ivory towers. But not among us regular folk. Church membership and attendance\u2026 now there\u2019s a heated debate! Whether you go to a high-church liturgical expression or attend some kind of house church or a coffee shop Sunday morning bible study or Wednesday night prayer group or an occasional pub discussion\u2026 as long as you gather together with other members of the invisible church, then you are okay. This is the new sign that you belong, that you are a member. If you don\u2019t belong to some kind of group, highly organized or highly organic, then your spirituality is seriously in question.<\/p>\n<p>But I contest this, and vehemently. Most of the people I communicate with on a daily basis steer far away from any intentional religious or spiritual or Christian gathering. They are so burned by their experience with it that they will not get within a mile of that trap.\u00a0Therefore they don\u2019t belong. They don\u2019t show the sign. They don\u2019t wear the badge. Where\u2019s the proof that they belong? Where\u2019s the evidence that they are members of the people of God?<\/p>\n<p>I claim that, as with every other person on this planet, we are all members, we all belong, before the sign and the badge. The sign is secondary. In fact, as Paul insists, the sign is obsolete. It is no longer valid. He would say if you have it, don\u2019t try to reverse it. But if you don\u2019t have it, don\u2019t try to get it. It\u2019s not necessary. In fact, he says it can actually nullify grace.<\/p>\n<p>In the New Testament era, if you aren\u2019t circumcised, you are still a member. I would go further. If you aren\u2019t a member of a church or attending one or any kind of alternative expression of one, you are still a member. You still belong. Period. That is grace. None excluded. All included. No religious expression necessary to prove it.<\/p>\n<p>I hope this is as clear to you as it is to me.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: red\">My books are full of crazy thoughts like this. Order them <a href=\"amazon.com\/David-Hayward\/e\/B006GARC8Q\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">HERE<\/a>.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I would like to compare church membership with circumcision. I was ordained Presbyterian. I was, and still am to some extent, a fan of Reformed Theology. 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