Quoting Quiverfull: No Television Keeps You Thinner?

Quoting Quiverfull: No Television Keeps You Thinner? September 7, 2016

quotingquiverfullby Zsuzsanna Anderson of Are They All Yours? – Financial Reasons to Turn Off Your Television

Editor’s note: What is with the Quiverfull obsession with everyone else’s waistlines? We had a series of posts from Lori Alexander and one of the Pearl daughters on the unGodliness of fat children recently. While it’s a great idea to make sure your children are active and eat right the rising obesity levels in America aren’t due only to television! Is this just part of the whole telling everyone what to do cultural enforcer part of QF, or is it a symptom of fat-shaming being one of the last acceptable forms of putting others down publicly? What’s driving this none of their business bus?

Poorer dining habits Instead of spending time preparing a healthy, inexpensive meal from scratch, we would hurry up and eat an more expensive prepackaged meal (or takeout) so that we could catch certain television programs. These costs added up, not only on our wallets, but also around our waists.

Poor health / obesity Television is almost always a sedentary activity. Over time, it begins to show. Television is the big reason for the “obesity epidemic,” because Americans simply don’t get the natural exercise from doing non-sedentary activities that they once got. The health costs from this can be tremendous.

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • Nea

    Size is an easy target for judging, especially in a culture based on outward appearances. And it makes it easy to brag about being the perfect mother who cooks the “right” food and doesn’t have the “wrong” influences.

    Nevermind that there are a variety of reasons behind weight gain, that TV can be educational (and shows exercise programs), or that most of us seculars are snorting derisively that many a fundamentalist family could afford neither health food nor cable with a huge family on one salary, so might as well make a virtue of necessity.

    (And that’s before we even unpack the Pearl attitudes towards food, in which girls are beaten for having preferences, not following a man’s cues, wanting too much, not wanting to eat animal feed, or otherwise listening to their bodies instead of their father’s control issues.)

  • Mel

    I’m pretty sure that super-healthy home-cooked meals are beyond the reach of most QF families for a couple of reasons.
    1) Many of the cultural enforcers get really into fresh, local produce. That’s all good fun, but fresh produce tends to be the highest cost, highest home labor and highest amount of waste produced compared to frozen or canned.
    2) Mom does all the cooking when the kids are little. Cooking three meals a day with only little ones is hard; doing while home-schooling two or three little kids should be nearly impossible.
    3) The oldest two daughters generally have a good chunk of their day sacrificed to preparing and cooking lunch and dinner and helping feed the mob younger than them. This means that the meals get more simple and the girls’ education is short-changed at the same time.
    4) Digging around on many QF bloggers sites has helped me find a few interesting articles where the moms admit point-blank that they make recipes stretch to the exact number of servings listed. This means that the family never has a chance at seconds on the main course or often on the starch portion of the menu. Seconds are allowed on fruits and vegetables if there are some left over. I’m in favor of teaching kids to eat responsibly, but that often means a kid actually needs a second helping of the protein or starch course. Kids and teens have growth spurts where they need more food for several weeks or months. When a kid is getting over an illness, often they eat more for a few days to make up caloric deficits that they got while sick and not eating as much. If there isn’t enough food to cover that ebb and flow cycle, children can end up getting malnourished and losing weight even when fed 3 meals a day.

  • Saraquill

    Yesterday I watched YouTube videos while eating spinach topped with eggs, a dish that took minutes to make.

    Has Lori fainted yet?

  • Astrin Ymris

    Fat fundgelicals tarnish the brand, and detract from the claim that their lifestyle is superior to all others. It’s part of the same impulse which demands constant smiles to maintain the illusion that the CPM life will make you happy-happy-happy.

  • texassa

    These people concern themselves with everything everyone else does.

  • AuntKaylea

    I’ve lost almost 60 lbs since my heaviest, and it coincides very nicely with when I started watching more television. (and with surgery to remove my thyroid, as it happens) As my health conditions have a tendency to make me keep weight on, my doctor encourages me to focus on other health numbers other than weight. (I spent over a year eating less than 1200 calories a day and gained over 20 lbs because of my thyroid – part of ).

    My overall cholesterol is less than 150. My bad cholesterol is less than 100. My blood pressure is an ideal 110/74. I’ve had EKGs and stress tests which show that my heart has less stress/likelihood of a heart attack than approximately 98% of people my age. No one gets numbers like that in middle age by neglect.

    But if I met Ms. Anderson, I would be judged for being overweight, and therefore “sinful”. I have been shamed for eating a dry salad at church pot lucks because of my weight. Health is more than weight. Shaming me for what is beyond my control cannot control is not helpful.

  • BondGurl7

    I just clicked the link to the actual blog and I’m sorry, but Zsuzsanna really has no place judging anyone else’s appearance. She may pride herself on abstaining from television, but she isn’t exactly svelte. I would also point out that she is wearing ugly flip flops in her family picture, where everyone else is wearing dress shoes. And yes, she may not be able to wear closed shoes for whatever reason, but it still sticks out like a sore thumb in such a formal photograph.

  • TLC

    This blog was written 7 years ago so it’s a bit old. And she copied and pasted it from another blog (which she credited and linked to). It makes me wonder if their family had all those issues. I have a hard time believing they actually have a TV.

  • Astrin Ymris

    Re: “…I have been shamed for eating a dry salad at church pot lucks because of my weight…”

    For real? That’s ridiculous. Do they expect you to starve yourself until you reach a “proper” weight?

    Ignore medically-unqualified idiots, and keep listening to your doctor. (((AuntKaylea)))

  • Astrin Ymris

    Um… there’s a certain inconsistency in appearance-shaming someone for appearance-shaming. Just sayin’.

  • Astrin Ymris

    Suzanne, have you seen Zsu’s latest attempt to science?


    She ignores the fact that the ‘Scientific American’ article she links to includes the sentence “…Pill users were happier with their mate’s financial support and other
    nonsexual aspects of the relationship, however, and they were less
    likely to separate…”

    On a side note, I wonder if the study controlled for religious affiliation? Outsiders probably don’t realize the extent to which CPM women– who are statistically less likely to use hormonal contraception– are constantly badgered with thought control messages by cultural enforcers, including the demand that they “feel attracted to” their husbands and “enjoy sex with them”. Such demands are highly likely to bias responses on self-reporting surveys.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Reading it now and oh lawdy is it a pile of steaming word salad!

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Yeah, you’re right, but I have to admit my mind went there too immediately.

  • AuntKaylea

    Thank you, Astrin. I realized after last night – that I was really angry after reading this and in my post.

    And yes, for real. An older woman in my church sat me down immediately after I ate a plate of dry salad to confront me about “my sin” of eating it. I was often shamed for eating at all. For years I struggled to eat in front of anyone at all. (Lots of therapy has helped). The starvation, bingeing, and purging cycle I developed only made my health issues (and my weight!) worse.

    Things like cooking classes and cooking shows and becoming a bit of a foodie have actually helped me. Fortunately, I also have a husband who loves it when I enjoy eating.

    I think I felt so raw with regard to this particular issue because we felt obligated over the weekend to attend an event with my mother, who hostessed a party celebrating our marriage. I didn’t get to eat much at the event as the new bride, so when I went looking for a snack during cleanup, I found that my mother had given away nearly all of the leftovers. She then proceeded to criticize me for eating some grapes and cubes of cheese and when I asked about a piece of cake (I only managed that first bite during the event). she refused. . . So I was already in that emotional space.

  • BondGurl7

    Sorry it came across that way. I really don’t care what she wears or how she looks, just pointing out that she has her faults too, just like any of us do.

  • Astrin Ymris

    Sheesh! Sounds like your mother created your eating disorder.

    Any chance that you could decline the next time your mother “invites” you to any event involving food? You have a right to protect yourself from abuse!

  • Nightshade

    Normally I’m very much against appearance-shaming, but when a person goes out of their way to appearance-shame others I think they open themselves up to the same.

    That being said, I don’t give a rat’s furry rear end what Zsu wears. Her body, her rules!

  • Antoinette Herrera

    Until, that is, Stevie A decides that Zsuzsanna needs a more stringent dress code. And she takes out her frustration on the readers of her blog, yet again.

  • Antoinette Herrera

    Shorter Zsuzsanna Anderson: If I have to endure fat shaming, you, dear readers, are going to suffer with me. And I don’t care if you have trouble sourcing fresh food, cooking from scratch, or whatever your excuses may be. You’re a fat, lazy couch potato, an ugly wife, and a horrid mother. Your kids will all end up in jail, on drugs, or as satanic, atheist purveyors of gastroporn. All your fault for buying frozen spinach and watching Food Network.

  • Antoinette Herrera

    If not, well, I can whip up some bacon kimchi fried rice, and make her head spin…

  • AuntKaylea

    I do decline most food related events with her; but sometimes as I have managed my behaviors for a while now, and live further away, I tend to forget that all the emotions are still there/still ready come to the fore when I am with her. She has done some therapy too at this point and is still growing as a person. Limited contact may be painful, and I no longer stay silent about certain behaviors, but there are some gray areas when it comes to emotional manipulation/abuse.

    I believe she is genuinely sorry when she acts out of old habits which are harmful because the intent behind them is to do what she believes is good. If I have learned anything, it is that it takes community to combat the ignorance Cindy posted about today, for all parties. I think she acted out of habit this weekend, and I confronted her after all the other guests had left. At various times in my life, it has been the loving confrontation by others that has helped me see the truth and grow.

    While my mother’s behavior may have contributed to one of the expressions of my trauma manifesting as an eating disorder, I am ultimately responsible for that choice. In fact, what was so seductive about bulimia for me was the illusion of some sort of “secret control” of myself at a time when I felt like I was not allowed to exist at all as an individual, or indeed, in charge of my own body.

    I see my mom as just starting to break free of some of what I have been working through for a few years now. Spending a few select times with her is a choice I am making because it helps me to forgive both myself and her, and hopefully grows both of us into better people.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    I haven’t chimed in on this yet, but yes, I have nothing but the utmost sympathy and understanding for what you have to deal with in regards to food and other people. Severe food allergies here and most other people just don’t get it that I’m not purposely being picky, it’s health.

    Hopefully your mother will eventually learn to leave you alone on your food choices.

  • AuntKaylea

    You have mine too, Suzanne.

    I have a dear friend with severe food allergies. She often prefers to bring her own meal to activities.

    Do you think there is a particularly hospitable way of approaching this topic that truly invites everyone to participate when it is an event which includes a meal?

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    If there is then I’ve never found it. Struggled with this issue and events for years now. One thing I did discover is that most five star restaurants will very gladly accommodate food allergies/issues, at least more than most organizations will.

  • Evelyn

    My community is actually really good at this, since we have a number of members avoiding different foods. The key for us is to make sure that someone who “gets it” is part of organizing events with food involved. It was like culture shock for me when I had to deal with a slightly different community, and presented someone’s dairy allergy as a matter of course. I was grilled on whether it was a “legitimate allergy, or just a preference?” I make a point of asking my guests when inviting them, and letting them know that my kitchen has been free of x.y. and z allergens for years.