{"id":40177,"date":"2017-02-06T09:57:37","date_gmt":"2017-02-06T13:57:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/?p=40177"},"modified":"2017-02-06T09:57:37","modified_gmt":"2017-02-06T13:57:37","slug":"examining-ati-wisdom-booklets-music","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/02\/examining-ati-wisdom-booklets-music\/","title":{"rendered":"Examining ATI Wisdom Booklets &#8211; Music"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Found this on Facebook in a group discussing how much control Bill Gothard and his Institute of Basic Life Principles exerted over his followers. It\u2019s a page from one of the Wisdom Booklets that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2016\/10\/examining-ati-wisdom-booklets-booklet-6-science-sheep\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">NLQ blogger Mel has yet to cover<\/a> \u2013 why all Christian music that is not an old hymn is a sin. I guess Gothard doesn\u2019t realize that most of the hymns from the 1700 and 1800s were new lyrics coupled with the melodies of drinking songs and tunes played in the taverns of the time. <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>So it\u2019s a sin to listen to syncopated rhythm but heavenly to sing a song that originated in the bar rooms?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/02\/gothardwisdomchristianmusic.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-40178\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-40178 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/02\/gothardwisdomchristianmusic.jpg\" alt=\"gothardwisdomchristianmusic\" width=\"480\" height=\"621\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>What do you think about Gothard\u2019s ideas of music and the effect of music on the spiritual side of your life?<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><em>Stay in touch! 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