{"id":40403,"date":"2017-02-21T17:00:32","date_gmt":"2017-02-21T21:00:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/?p=40403"},"modified":"2017-02-21T10:04:49","modified_gmt":"2017-02-21T14:04:49","slug":"quoting-quiverfull-part-1-children-born-with-demonic-need-for-pleasure","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/02\/quoting-quiverfull-part-1-children-born-with-demonic-need-for-pleasure\/","title":{"rendered":"Quoting Quiverfull: Part 1 &#8211; Children Born With Demonic Need For Pleasure?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/02\/quotingquiverfull-2.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-40404\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-40404\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/02\/quotingquiverfull-2-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"quotingquiverfull\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\"><\/a>by Michael Pearl from <a href=\"https:\/\/nogreaterjoy.org\/articles\/self-control\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">No Greater Joy \u2013 Self Control<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Editor\u2019s note: What type of a toxic person proclaims that a child\u2019s wants are \u2018dark arts of indulgence\u2019 like they are busy perusing the Necronominon and casting spells? Michael is busy laying out all his reasons why the beatings must start in his corner of the world very early. Beating a child for normal development is beyond cruel.<\/em> <!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Two-year-old Johnny was sitting in his mother\u2019s lap at the kitchen table. He reached for a dish of steamed squash, but his mother pulled him back and said \u201cNo.\u201d He twisted his shoulders back and forth as if to break her grasp, and then he defiantly slapped the table with the palm of his hand. His face expressed anger. He made grunting noises that were clearly designed to imitate an angry bear. He highly resented his mother limiting his powers of indulgence. He wanted to indulge his sense of touch, smell, taste, and sight, along with the human drive to manipulate. And finally, he wanted to indulge in controlling his environment and those in it. This mentality of \u2018give it to me now\u2019 has been developing since the day he was born. He has now had two years to accept it as a way of life. His parents are wondering if they should start training him to exercise self-control. However, they are two years overdue.<\/p>\n<p>Parents are responsible to impart values and self-control to their children, but there is a dilemma. The infant has fully developed fleshly desires and habits of indulgence long before his mental faculties have developed to the level where he can understand the need to exercise self-control. When a child gets old enough to begin to develop a will to exercise self-control (possibly around three or four) his flesh is already well practiced in the dark arts of indulgence.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ \u2013 we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let\u2019s keep it respectful \u2013 but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/02\/more-2.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-40405\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-40405\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/02\/more-2.jpg\" alt=\"more\" width=\"35\" height=\"46\"><\/a><em>Read more by Michael Pearl:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/01\/quoting-quiverfull-cheerfulness-important-child-training\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Cheerfulness Most Important in Child Training<\/a><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<hr>\n<p><em>Stay in touch! 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