{"id":41183,"date":"2017-04-24T17:00:50","date_gmt":"2017-04-24T21:00:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/?p=41183"},"modified":"2017-04-24T12:42:13","modified_gmt":"2017-04-24T16:42:13","slug":"meet-prince-charming-part-1-chapter-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/04\/meet-prince-charming-part-1-chapter-5\/","title":{"rendered":"Before You Meet Prince Charming: Part 1 Chapter 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/04\/princecharming.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-41184\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-41184\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/04\/princecharming-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"princecharming\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\"><\/a>by Mel cross posted from her blog <a href=\"http:\/\/whencowsandkidscollide.blogspot.com\/2017\/04\/before-you-meet-prince-charming-chapter_7.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">When Cows and Kids Collide<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><em>All quoted text from Sarah Mally\u2019s book \u2018Before You Meet Prince Charming\u2019 in blue text.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>At the end of Chapter Four\u2019s allegory, Sir Eloquence disappears from the story. \u00a0I find that disappointing for a few reasons. <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>First, for all that he was portrayed as brash and probably lying about his exploits, he\u2019s the real person to have shown up so far. \u00a0The King and Queen have no negative traits at all; the King is the ever-benevolent, all-knowing Father and the Queen is a nebulous figure in the background. \u00a0The Princess allegedly has some negative traits, but the only one we\u2019ve seen so far is that she\u2019s lightly questioned her Father\u2019s dictates without rebelling openly in any way. \u00a0Sir Eloquence was more like a real teenage boy in that he misjudged the right way to approach the Princess, bragged about exploits that he probably didn\u2019t do, and had the audacity to be more interested in the Princess than her parents. \u00a0(How shocking!).<\/p>\n<p>Second, I\u2019ve always liked it when rejected suitors simply disappeared from my life. \u00a0Alas, that\u2019s only happened twice \u2013 and mainly because I met them online for the express and sole purpose of dating to find a marriage partner. \u00a0(God, that sounds so romantic, I know\u2026.) \u00a0In real life, dating \u2013 and courting \u2013 often involve people who are going to be in your life even if the romantic relationship ends. \u00a0I\u2019ve yet to see a CP book for unmarried singles deal with that outcome so that\u2019s a niche waiting to be filled.<\/p>\n<p>Well, now that Sir Eloquence is gone, the Princess has returned to her usual activities which seem to be standing near the moat and daydreaming. \u00a0In terms of the King\u2019s goal of having her help the people, we are still at \u201cpicked up some veggies for an old woman once\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a saying that a stopped clock is right twice a day. \u00a0In this allegory, Ms. Mally write a few surprisingly insightful moments along with the usual tripe. \u00a0Here\u2019s one:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"quote2\"><span style=\"color: #333399;\">\u201cThe Princess was glad that the knight had stopped pursuing her hand, and she did not expect him to be bothering her in the village anymore. Yet, now that he was gone, she did miss him just a little bit \u2013 or maybe it was simply his affectionate words and attention that she sometimes wished for\u2026\u201d (pg. 85)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>This is a poignant moment. \u00a0The Princess misses someone who she has talked to a handful of times at the market and who was at the castle for a single day. \u00a0She\u2019s been so systematically isolated from all other humans outside of her family that she misses someone she barely knows and didn\u2019t like very much during their interactions.<\/li>\n<li>This is the only CP book I\u2019ve run into so far that doesn\u2019t have anyone bash the Princess for missing Sir Eloquence\u2019s company. \u00a0Now, this might be because she never tells anyone she\u2019s missing him, but it\u2019s still a nice change of pace.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The Princess and the Queen are walking to the village to get lunch and go shopping. \u00a0(I know\u2026the anachronisms hurt\u2026.) \u00a0The Princess is still angsty about Sir Eloquence and asks her mom for some advice leading to this conversation:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"quote3\"><span style=\"color: #333399;\">\u201cStop worrying about him, dear. Thy father and I are proud of thy decision. You never have to fear what others think when you know you have done what is right.\u201d (pg. 87)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>The last sentence is spoken with all the privileged that a white, middle-class woman can muster.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"quote3\">\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\">\u201cI know, Mother. But no one understands why I do not go to any of the dances or parties. They say that I will never meet anyone and that I do nothing but sit in the castle and dream.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\">\u201cNay, my daughter. They admire thy beauty, thy graciousness, and, most of all, thy purity. A few will always criticize. Perhaps they are jealous. In addition, it is likely that they feel guilty due to their own carelessness, and rather than changing their ways, they think it easier to find fault with any who take the narrow way.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"> \u201cBut they speak lies of me,\u201d said the princess. \u201cInstead of being a candle as Father says, I fear that I am merely discouraging any from following the way of purity. Everyone says my example is foolish and ridiculous.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"> \u201cNot so, for many more respect thy ways than thou knowest. But as the crow flies noisily and interrupts an otherwise peaceful world, so the few critics are usually verbal while the many admirers remain silent.\u201d(pg. 87)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>The Princess has correctly judged the mood of her People \u2013 and anyone reading this book who has not already drunk the Kool-Aid. \u00a0No one\u2019s explained why the dances and parties are evil. \u00a0She\u2019s not met many people; only Sir Eloquence and possibly some unnamed young women so far. \u00a0Really, the only thing the People are slight off about is that she mostly <u>stands by the moat <\/u>and dreams.<\/li>\n<li>Physical beauty isn\u2019t a Christian virtue, but this book can\u2019t stop signaling that the Princess is lovely.<\/li>\n<li>Notice that the Queen warps the People\u2019s real viewpoint of \u201cBoy, the Princess has some weird life choices\u201d into \u201cWe are so darn guilty and jealous of the Princess\u2019 life choices\u201d. \u00a0As someone who grew up in the lost liberal world, running into CP\/QF folk doesn\u2019t trigger jealousy or guilt. At best, I felt vague curiosity and mild tolerance of the span of human cultures. \u00a0At worst, I tried to get the hell out of Dodge before they tried to convert me.<\/li>\n<li>I can\u2019t imagine that the People are as enthralled about the Princess\u2019 emotional purity as the Queen states they are. That is a weird, weird thing to think about so I doubt the People have ever even thought about it. \u00a0Honestly, I think it\u2019s more like the reason people visit Amish country or watched the Duggars; you get a whiff of the \u201cgood old days\u201d nostalgia without ever wanting to live like that.<\/li>\n<li>There has been no evidence that anyone outside of the Royal Family view the Princess as being a shining candle of virtue for anyone to follow. \u00a0More importantly, I don\u2019t see how anyone outside of her family would know about her virtues! \u00a0She\u2019s not friends with any of the People and she spends most of her life daydreaming in the castle. \u00a0The Princess\u2019 conceit that she doesn\u2019t care about what people think of her (well, in the even-numbered chapters, anyways) will not draw people to her example. \u00a0Her conceit in odd-numbered chapters of being friendly but separate from people her age is even less attractive to outsiders.<\/li>\n<li>The \u201ccrow\u201d proverb didn\u2019t land with me. \u00a0Crows are really amazingly smart; if a crow is calling, you can be sure there\u2019s a reason for it.<\/li>\n<li>The Queen\u2019s conceit of \u201cNo, really, the peasants LOVE us; we just only hear from the vocal minority about how stupid they think our life choices are\u201d tends to end badly for royalty in overthrow or exile. \u00a0Of course, I\u2019m using my interest in history and habit of reading well-researched historical non-fiction books to make that connection \u2013 you know, the kind of habits found only in sheltered, home graduates like Ms. Mally, not public\/private\/parochial school graduates like me.\n<ul>\n<li>Truthfully, SAHD written books have done more damage to the image of home schooling as a fail-safe way to raise highly educated daughters than anything else I\u2019ve found so far.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"quote3\">\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\">\u201c\u201dBut I must explain my motives. I must tell them the rumors they hear are false.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\"> \u201cOh no, thou cannot defend thyself,\u201d explained her mother. \u201cIt only will give credence to the lies. A princess must let her life and good works be her defense against any who seek to slander.\u201d( pg. 87)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>The Queen\u2019s not the best advice person, is she? \u00a0The Princess can\u2019t defend herself because she has no allies among the People. \u00a0When the Queen and King committed their family to the \u201cwe are a people set apart and untouchable\u201d method of demonstrating purity, they also committed to being looked at askance by every other human being in the community.<\/li>\n<li>Slander is far too strong of a word \u2013 again. \u00a0Slander implies that the views and beliefs of the People can do real, irreparable harm to the Princess. \u00a0Even in the historically inaccurate world of this book, that doesn\u2019t ring true at all. \u00a0The fact that people are confused about how keeping the Princess on a short leash away from all non-relatives will lead to a happy marriage isn\u2019t malicious or vicious; it\u2019s honestly sweet. \u00a0The People want their Princess to be happily married and have valid concerns about how the Royal Family is managing her with that view in mind.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div>There\u2019s actually still quite a bit ahead in the Chapter 5 allegory, so I\u2019m going to split it into two posts. \u00a0Next up: The Princess meets up with one of her friends in town\u2026because that\u2019s both historically accurate and isn\u2019t jarring based on everything written in the book up until now. \u00a0*thumps head against desk a few times*<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/02\/beginning-meet-prince-charming\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Introduction<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/03\/meet-prince-charming-part-1-chapter-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Part 1<\/a> |<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/03\/meet-prince-charming-part-2-chapter-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\"> Part 2<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/03\/meet-prince-charming-part-1-chapter-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Part 3<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/03\/meet-prince-charming-part-2-chapter-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Part 4<\/a>\u00a0 | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/04\/meet-prince-charming-part\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Part 5<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/04\/meet-prince-charming-part-1-chapter-4\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Part 6<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/04\/meet-prince-charming-part-2-chapter-4\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Part 7<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Mel is a science teacher who works with at-risk teens and lives on a dairy farm with her husband. 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