{"id":41562,"date":"2017-06-09T05:00:14","date_gmt":"2017-06-09T09:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/?p=41562"},"modified":"2017-06-08T22:21:54","modified_gmt":"2017-06-09T02:21:54","slug":"quoting-quiverfull-love-equals-obedience","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/quoting-quiverfull-love-equals-obedience\/","title":{"rendered":"Quoting Quiverfull: Love Equals Obedience?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/quotingquiverfull.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-41563\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-41563\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/quotingquiverfull-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"quotingquiverfull\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\"><\/a>by Nancy Campbell of <a href=\"http:\/\/aboverubies.org\/index.php\/blog\/womens-daily-encouragement\/entry\/two-way-street\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Above Rubies \u2013 Two Way Street<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Editor\u2019s note: Looks like Nancy is taking up Debi Pearl and Lori Alexander\u2019s habit of hopping from topic to topic in Bible Twister. One minute claiming that obedience and love are the same before pivoting right back to womb worship. Different day, same old, same old.<\/em><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Obedience is a proof of love. A child shows his love to his parents by obeying them. A wife shows her love to her husband by lovingly submitting to him. God says we show our love to Him when we obey His commandments<\/p>\n<p>Do you notice how God shows His love to us by blessing us with the fruit of the womb? We see this again in Deuteronomy 28, the blessing chapter. I am not sure why I call it the blessing chapter as there are 53 verses of cursings and only 14 verses of blessing. I don\u2019t like reading the cursings as much as the blessings.<\/p>\n<p>Two times in the few blessing verses, God says He will bless the fruit of our womb and then continues with all the blessings of provision to provide for the fruit of the womb. Check them out.<\/p>\n<p>I know there are many who don\u2019t want to be blessed with the fruit of the womb. We are so far removed from the truth of God\u2019s Word and the reality of His heart for us, aren\u2019t we? And yet this is how God wants to pour out His love upon us.<\/p>\n<p>It is only the deception of Satan in our hearts that makes us think that children are not a blessing. And yet what material blessings can even compare with one life created in the image of God, let along many?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ \u2013 we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let\u2019s keep it respectful \u2013 but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/more.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-41564\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-41564\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/more.jpg\" alt=\"more\" width=\"35\" height=\"46\"><\/a><em>Read more by Nancy Campbell<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/quoting-quiverfull-falling-off-ladder-reminds-pray\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Falling Off a Ladder<\/a><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<hr>\n<p><em>Stay in touch! 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One minute claiming that obedience and love are the same before pivoting right back to womb worship. 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