{"id":41595,"date":"2017-06-14T08:15:57","date_gmt":"2017-06-14T12:15:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/?p=41595"},"modified":"2017-06-14T08:15:57","modified_gmt":"2017-06-14T12:15:57","slug":"dear-abuse-victim-ignore-try-hold-accountable","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/dear-abuse-victim-ignore-try-hold-accountable\/","title":{"rendered":"Dear Abuse Victim &#8211; Ignore Those That Try to Hold Me Accountable"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/DougWilsonDutchUncle.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-41596\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-41596\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/DougWilsonDutchUncle-225x300.png\" alt=\"DougWilsonDutchUncle\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\"><\/a>by Doug Wilson from <a href=\"https:\/\/dougwils.com\/s7-engaging-the-culture\/into-the-pavilions-of-god.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Blog and Mablog \u2013 Into the Pavilions of God<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Editor\u2019s note: Wilson has it backwards I think, telling this supposedly fictional sexual abuse victim to ignore anyone that does not approve of his words. No, sorry Doug, but much of your advice, even judged on a Biblical standard, is just more abuse laid upon a survivor of abuse.<\/em><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You have told me several times in your letters that you have found my letters a real encouragement, a very practical help. But I can guarantee you that if you were to read portions of these letters aloud at a partisan meeting organized on behalf of <em>approved<\/em> victims, a number of my points would be shouted down under a torrent of recrimination. I would be called a number of things, up to and including a different kind of abuser. And you would be scratching your head\u2014how could this be abuse when you found it so helpful? Well, it isn\u2019t abuse, just gospel.<\/p>\n<p>There is no need to try to fix everybody else\u2014if <em>you<\/em> have found peace in your individual soul, then enjoy that peace. God has given you a white stone, and you have a name written there that is known to Him and to you alone (Rev. 2:17). So worship God, love Christ, and love your people. There <em>are<\/em> turbulent spirits out there, and they do disapprove of your peace. <em>Let<\/em> them. Leave them be. They might heartily disapprove of you\u2014but your peace is something that passes understanding anyhow. God will keep your heart and mind, and He will do it by means of <em>His<\/em> peace (Phil. 4:7). And whenever they get a bit too noisy, you may feel free to withdraw into the pavilions of God.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ \u2013 we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let\u2019s keep it respectful \u2013 but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/more-2.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-41597\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-41597\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/more-2.jpg\" alt=\"more\" width=\"35\" height=\"46\"><\/a><em>Read more by Doug Wilson<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/quoting-quiverfull-identifying-victim-sin\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Identifying as Survivor<\/a><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<hr>\n<p><em>Stay in touch! 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No, sorry Doug, but much of your advice, even judged on a Biblical standard, is just more [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1057,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11505,5809,6450,12481,11626,6379],"tags":[2673,13987,9066,5752,13544],"class_list":["post-41595","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-all-other-churches-are-wrong","category-come-to-jesus-salvation-calls","category-ill-pray-for-you","category-keep-your-mouth-shut","category-never-criticize-your-pastor","category-youre-just-mad-at-god","tag-childhood-sexual-abuse","tag-counseling-abuse-survivors","tag-creating-toxic-environments","tag-doug-wilson-blog-and-mablog","tag-incest-in-quiverfull-families"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Dear Abuse Victim - Ignore Those That Try to Hold Me Accountable<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Doug WIlson tells his fictional sexual abuse survivor that she is not to listen to the outside world claim that his advice is abuse.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/dear-abuse-victim-ignore-try-hold-accountable\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Dear Abuse Victim - Ignore Those That Try to Hold Me Accountable\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Doug WIlson tells his fictional sexual abuse survivor that she is not to listen to the outside world claim that his advice is abuse.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/dear-abuse-victim-ignore-try-hold-accountable\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"No Longer Quivering\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:author\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/suzanne.titkemeyer\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2017-06-14T12:15:57+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/wp.production.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/files\/2017\/06\/DougWilsonDutchUncle-225x300.png\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Suzanne Titkemeyer\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Suzanne Titkemeyer\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/dear-abuse-victim-ignore-try-hold-accountable\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/dear-abuse-victim-ignore-try-hold-accountable\/\",\"name\":\"Dear Abuse Victim - Ignore Those That Try to Hold Me Accountable\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2017-06-14T12:15:57+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2017-06-14T12:15:57+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/#\/schema\/person\/de1c4fe9026928ed8ac9f039a15553e2\"},\"description\":\"Doug WIlson tells his fictional sexual abuse survivor that she is not to listen to the outside world claim that his advice is abuse.\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/dear-abuse-victim-ignore-try-hold-accountable\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/dear-abuse-victim-ignore-try-hold-accountable\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/dear-abuse-victim-ignore-try-hold-accountable\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Dear Abuse Victim &#8211; 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