{"id":41625,"date":"2017-06-20T05:00:39","date_gmt":"2017-06-20T09:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/?p=41625"},"modified":"2017-06-19T11:30:50","modified_gmt":"2017-06-19T15:30:50","slug":"quoting-quiverfull-ken-alexander-word-salad-bitter-women","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/quoting-quiverfull-ken-alexander-word-salad-bitter-women\/","title":{"rendered":"Quoting Quiverfull &#8211; Wives Throw Temper Tantrums?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/KenAlexander.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-41627\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-41627\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/KenAlexander-224x300.png\" alt=\"KenAlexander\" width=\"224\" height=\"300\"><\/a>by Ken Alexander on his wife Lori\u2019s blog <a href=\"https:\/\/thetransformedwife.com\/one-long-temper-tantrum\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Transformed Wife \u2013 One Long Temper Tantrum<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Editor\u2019s note: Notice as he speaks about counseling the husband of a \u2018bitter\u2019 wife that not once does he say one thing about how the husband might possibly be failing in his job of being a husband. Oh no, it\u2019s all about demonizing the wife and coming up with dehumanizing phrasing to reduce women to something less than men, less human and more child like. Hate just drips off both Lori and Ken, certainly no love, mercy or compassion. Toxic advice from toxic people just leads to the creation of more toxic people.<\/em> <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"CENTER\">One in particular is so messed up by her bitterness that she is constantly lashing out at him and he can do nothing right. If you were to trace the root of the bitterness back it is mainly found in her childhood relationship with an angry Dad, but certainly she feels she deserves a better spot in life as finances are short and the fruit of her own labor scarce. Working 2-3 jobs with long 60 hour weeks, this poor husband comes home to a disaster of a home, nothing picked up or vacuumed, no food on the table and dishes everywhere. If he says anything about it, he is lucky if he just gets an argument or snide remark as he regularly gets a profanity-laced tongue lashing with one irrational comment after another. One moment she says she hates him and at other times she begs for his help. She is unwilling to see her own stubborn bitterness as what is destroying her life and her marriage.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"CENTER\">She has this warped idea that somehow he is being controlling when he asks her to be a wife to him and have food on the table at least a few evenings a week, and sex once or twice a month. His counselor says he needs to be patient and she acknowledges his efforts. She cannot define her needs or put them in writing, he is just told to be patient as she treats him like an island in his own home.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"CENTER\">QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ \u2013 we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let\u2019s keep it respectful \u2013 but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"CENTER\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/more-1.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-41628\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-41628\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/188\/2017\/06\/more-1.jpg\" alt=\"more\" width=\"35\" height=\"46\"><\/a><em>Read more from Ken Alexander:<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"CENTER\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nolongerquivering\/2017\/06\/ken-alexander-legalism-wife\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Don\u2019t Listen to My Wife<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<hr>\n<p><em>Stay in touch! 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